Frame it the way you want. It is the device.
If you say Apple is scanning the device, you are lying. They are not scanning the device. They are scanning photos chosen for upload.
This is about the 16th time I have seen language just like this used to explain away this concern. I don't know if you realize, but this wording makes it sound like you can select some photos and leave others local. I can find no indication anywhere, including on my phone, that iCloud Photos is anything other than an All Or Nothing singular toggle in iCloud settings. If you have instructions to the contrary, I will be happy to stand corrected.
Seriously, everybody is wording it like this. "Photos you choose..." and similar.
Suppose we know there are people who smuggle drugs on airplanes on their person for the purpose of something terrible, like addicting children or poisoning people. If I run an airport I could say: to stop this, I'm going to subject everyone who flies out of my airport to a body-cavity search. Tim, and Craig, are you OK with this? If I can say, "Don't worry! We have created this great robots that ensure the body cavity searches are gentle and the minimum needed to check for illegal drugs," does it really change anything to make it more acceptable to you?
I was just pointing out a falsehood you wrote about what is actually being done.
Anyway, someone in here can accept what the other can't, so let's leave at that and let history tells.
If Chrome scanned downloaded files for viruses and you described that to someone as "scans your computer for viruses" do you think the listener would come away with an accurate understanding of what was happening and accurate understanding of what they were and were not being protected from?
If BestBuy GeekSquad offered a service to "check your device for problems" and all they did was open your photo collection, would you walk away arguing that it proves the screen and mouse and CPU and disk must function and nobody could expect them to do any more than that, service provided, full marks, that's "the device" checked? Or would you hope that "checking the device for problems" might involve at least exercising all the major features like speakers, wifi, bluetooth, at least once, and preferably with stress and thermal tests?
When the TSA ask you to switch your device on to demonstrate that it's not a bomb, are you on the side of "if the screen lights up, the device is thoroughly and effectively tested and cannot contain anything else" or on the side of "an attacker could make up many ways to make the screen glow while hollowing out the insides, this does not really demonstrate that 'the device' is safe"?
"Device scans photos" and "Apple scans device" imply two very different things about how much is scanned, and you're using the latter because you know that if you describe it accurately readers won't be as panicked as you want them to be.
>They are scanning photos chosen for upload
That's pretty much scanning on the device.
That is different from scanning the device. Saying they are ‘scanning the device’ is a lie.
Yes, Apple could scan the device in future. It’s still a lie to say they are doing it now.
>Yes, Apple could scan the device in future. It’s still a lie to say they are doing it now.
Puh..i am relieved now...wait i don't even have a apple product.
EDIT: For Question below
https://technokilo.com/apple-child-safety-feature-third-part...
>Apple didn’t announce any timeframe about when will they implement child safety features in third-party apps. Apple said that they still have to complete testing of child features and ensure that the use of this feature in third-party apps will not bring any privacy harm
The Q&A mentioned has no date or time. No Apple Spokespeople are named. There are no actual quotes. No well known news outlets have mentioned this very consequential detail.
This has all the indicators of a fake.
Do they? Where have they said that?
Were you aware of that when you posted it?
I'd call that photo scanning... and they are scanning the photos on the device.
This isn’t some ambiguous case that needs to be addressed philosophically. They aren’t scanning anything other than the photos being uploaded.
When people say that the device is being scanned for pictures, they know what that means. So it is fine for them to say that the device is being scanned for pictures.
Do you have any affiliations we should be aware of?
Secondly, I haven’t ‘defended Apple’ in any comments. Indeed there are comments in which I make a judgement about this topic where I say that what Apple is doing is distasteful and offensive.
Elsewhere I have pointed out that if Apple wants to scan people’s devices they have many other mechanisms at their fingertips than this narrowly tailored tool.
What exactly do you think I’m ‘defending Apple’ from? Quite a few of my comments are critical of false or immaculate characterizations of what Apple is actually doing.
If you consider that to be a defense of Apple, then I disagree.
For the most part there just seems to be a lot of confusion about what Apple is doing, and general frustration about the state of computing.
Do you really think of these as ‘attacks’ on Apple?
The amount of time he or she has invested in sticking up for Apple is astronomical.
Yes, they will check the images you have chosen to upload. No ‘scanning is involved’.
Claiming this is ‘scanning users devices’ is just dishonest - it’s obvious that it creates a false dichotomy impression of what they are actually doing.
Don’t do that.