Apple's child protection features spark concern within its own ranks: sources

Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by nullc on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:23PM (#28163012)

They aren't being coaxed or coerced. If they were forced-- or even incentivized-- by the government to perform these searches than they'd be subject to the fourth amendment protecting against warrantless searches.

Apple is engaging in this activity of their own free will for sake of their own commercial gain and are not being incentivized or coerced by the government in any way.

As such, the warrantless search of the customer data is lawful by virtue of the customer's agreements with Apple.

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by 3grdlurker on Thursday August 12, 2021 @08:52PM (#28163901)

> Apple is engaging in this activity of their own free will for sake of their own commercial gain and are not being incentivized or coerced by the government in any way.

Honest question: how do you know this, for sure? Or is your comment supposed to be read as an allegation phrased as fact?

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by azinman2 on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:43PM (#28163246)

> Apple is engaging in this activity of their own free will for sake of their own commercial gain

What's the commercial gain?

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by dannyw on Friday August 13, 2021 @04:22AM (#28166706)

The commercial gain can be "don't break us up under antitrust law".

Apple is basically saying to governments: see our walled garden? The more you allow us to wall it, the more we can help you oppress your citizens.

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by slg on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:47PM (#28163289)

This will likely be paired with the rollout of full encryption for iCloud and they will sell the entire thing as a pro-privacy move.

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by ninkendo on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:13PM (#28164102)

That would appear to have backfired.

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by sethammons on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:51PM (#28163335)

More access to markets subject to totalitarian regimes

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by azinman2 on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:57PM (#28163404)

I'm assuming you're kidding here, but if you look at the list of countries already selling/supporting iPhones, what's not on the US export ban list that's a totalitarian regime?

https://www.apple.com/iphone/cellular/

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by stjohnswarts on Thursday August 12, 2021 @08:34PM (#28163760)

China is obviously the big one as is Russia.

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by azinman2 on Friday August 13, 2021 @02:21AM (#28166038)

But they’re already in both countries.

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by thombee on Friday August 13, 2021 @06:29AM (#28167353)

Why can't they provide this feature to these regimes? Why do they implement it in the USA then? Seems like a roundabout way to go about it lol

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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by nullc on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:54PM (#28163379)

Not being identified as the go-to platform for kiddy porn collectors.

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