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Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by dtagames on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @11:22AM (#28143090)
Indeed. Tech companies now silence politicians unilaterally, while governments made up of the same politicians do nothing to stop the widespread flow of toxic misinformation on tech platforms.

So, who is really in charge?

Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by dantheman on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @11:40AM (#28143369)
You have no right to use someone else's printing press. The government can easily create their own video hosting platform. Just like the NYTimes doesn't need to allow any politician to submit an oped.
Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by mimixco on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @11:46AM (#28143482)
We've lost the essence of journalism.

Instead of a venue where multiple options are presented for review by the reader (along with editorial comment, of course), we now have platforms which are nothing but editorial. Not only individual people but individual comments are called out for censorship. This is not how news reporting was done in the past.

It's sad because today, there isn't a single website where a curious individual can review all of the views on a subject (or all of the comments of opposing politicians, for examples) without the platform weighting or simply removing views it doesn't like. This is a loss of objective information and is detrimental to education and intellectual and social advancement.

Instead of journalism, each "platform" now picks and chooses stories and voices that amplify its overlords' goals and nothing more. There is no truth to be delivered, only "my" truth as seen by my platform owners.

It's a sad day.

Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by selimthegrim on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @07:28PM (#28149486)
What do you think journalism was like in Zenger's time?
Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by shadowgovt on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @06:30PM (#28148712)
In my lifetime, we never had the essence of journalism as you're describing it. Even before the internet, my hometown had the left-leaning and right-leaning newspaper (and I was lucky enough to live in a town that offered both!).
Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @07:05PM (#28149172)
The tech companies may be trying to "control the problem" so that the government doesn't decide to legislate. Unfortunately for the tech companies, they're doing it so badly, so randomly, that they're probably making legislation more likely.
Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by javajosh on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @11:28AM (#28143170)
At some point, the adults need to be in charge. I for one applaud YouTube for taking this step, because it's not an easy choice, because they'll get pushback like this.

Misinformation about Covid is deadly. Rand Paul is spreading misinformation - masks stop the spread of everything because it prevents bodily fluid particles from getting on everything, and also stops people from touching their face. Both of these are key vectors for disease to spread.

If corporations are to be treated as people, then it's good that they behave as if they have a conscience, and show an unwillingness to sacrifice real people on the alter of libertarian free-speech political correctness.

If I worked at YouTube I would be proud of their stance.

Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by mimixco on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @11:34AM (#28143266)
Lots of misinformation on YouTube is bad for people and isn't stopped. And I would hardly call Google, YouTube's owners, a "company with a conscience" since nearly their entire business is based on predatory surveillance advertising.

In a democratic society, the elected leaders need to communicate their ideas, however wrongheaded. If they aren't allowed to communicate, how do they reach their electors and how do they tell potential voters they're right (or wrong)? When you are at the platform level like YouTube, you have a responsibility to carry information from the government even if you don't like it because you didn't elect Ron Paul, his constituents did.

Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by javajosh on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @11:38AM (#28143344)
YouTube is NOT the government. If Rand Paul was arrested for his speech, that would be a violation of his First Amendment rights and wrong. The right to speak does not compel a private platform to carry that speech.

Certainly Fox News gives RP and his ilk plenty of opportunity to spread their harmful propaganda. So it's not like, even in a practical sense, his ability to express himself has been curtailed.

Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by lp0_on_fire on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @02:31PM (#28145821)
> Certainly Fox News gives RP and his ilk

Tell us how you really feel about people on the right.

Something tells me you'd be singing a different story if it were someone you agreed with.

Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by treeman79 on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @06:10PM (#28148469)
Lincoln was not even on the ballet In several states. That lead to a civil war.s

We are reaching/past the point where open speech is no longer allowed. That makes next steps scary.

Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by rat87 on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @07:11PM (#28149259)
YouTube doing the right thing and banning some stupid misinformation is nowhere near civil war.
Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by treeman79 on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @07:28PM (#28149483)
Misinformation is the excuse. This is banning a political party on whatever reason they think they can get away with.
Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by selimthegrim on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @07:29PM (#28149501)
Rand Paul is the GOP now? You might want to tell Trump that.
Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @07:36PM (#28149583)
Well, they're also banning Trump...

(Different "they", though - Twitter. But Twitter was Trump's main medium. Anyway, point is, once you raise the topic, yeah, it looks like treeman79 actually does have a bit of evidence on his side...)

Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by rat87 on Monday August 16, 2021 @03:56AM (#28195901)
he does not.

They're not banning a political party at all. They are banning some individuals for breaking the terms of service.

Re:YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days by drstewart on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @07:06PM (#28149182)
>masks stop the spread of everything

Do masks stop the spread of bullets? If not, you are spreading misinformation and need to be banned.