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Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by Aeolun on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @07:50AM (#28140840)
> WB 35 °C (95 °F) – theoretically equivalent to a heat index of 70 °C (160 °F), though the heat index does not go that high

I’m inclined to say that this is not very survivable, regardless of your precautions, if your air conditioning has died.

Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by giantg2 on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @09:38AM (#28141802)
I'm not sure you understand wet bulb and heat index. Heat index is largely irrelevant when talking about the precautions mentioned. The actual temperature is no where near 70C, and actual temperatures matter when talking about cooling that does not use ambient air (and evaporative cooling assuming 100% humidity in this case).

A wet bulb of 35C means that there is a thermometer covered with a wet cloth reading that temperature. That could be 35C with 100% humidity, or it could be a higher temperature with a lower humidity.

Can you explain how your air conditioner keeps you cool? Do you think this machine is the only thing that can perform a similar function? It's all about removing excess heat from your body. An air conditioner does this by cooling air and removing humidity. This can be from the cool air on your skin and the ability for your sweat to evaporate. When your sweat can't evaporate you need another way to transfer heat. Water is very efficient for this due to its specific heat (anything at a cooler temperature with sufficient thermal mass can work). Some people can even become hypothermic in 27C water if left in it long enough.

Edit: I guess people just downvote things they don't like or find to be inconvenient.

Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by exo-pla-net on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @11:18AM (#28143040)
Re-read the comment you're responding to.
Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by giantg2 on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @11:46AM (#28143481)
I did... and?
Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by exo-pla-net on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @03:21PM (#28146444)
You come off as browbeating him, accusing him of not knowing things, when he said a small thing that was fully accurate if not precise. That's why you're being downvoted.
Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by giantg2 on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @06:04PM (#28148403)
"I’m inclined to say that this is not very survivable, regardless of your precautions, if your air conditioning has died."

How is that fully accurate? It seems to me that "not very survivable" is not accurate and is an over exaggeration. I don't expect a 50% death rate, even 10% would be extremely generous. It would be like me saying linux desktops are very common.

Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by exo-pla-net on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @08:05PM (#28149887)
This is silly/pedantic. He's talking about being in a typical house with a dead A/C, experiencing the equivalent of 70C. Please tell us how you're going to survive that circumstance. Answer: you're not. You're going to change your circumstance, since it's not very survivable. You're going to leave your house and try to find somewhere cooler. His statement is accurate if not precise.
Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by giantg2 on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @09:05PM (#28150389)
Lol it is not the equivalent of 70C. Please see the other resources people have posted here about understanding wet bulb temperatures. Even a wet bulb of 35C can be tolerated by most for hours - 70C could not.

I would not leave my house. My house has insulation and thermal mass, which would delay the tempature from reaching that level until later. I could use water to cool myself, whether in the bath tub or a trashcan. I could use a fan if there's power (depends on the temperature and humidity to reach that wet bulb). I could use frozen objects (even without power, the freezer will stay cold for at least a day). I also have a generator to power these things if there's a short to medium term outage.

Their statement was not about changing one's circumstance. It was that even with precautions, it's not very survivable. This is neither accurate nor precise. It is very survivable with precautions.

Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by exo-pla-net on Thursday August 12, 2021 @11:29AM (#28157559)
You're describing tactics that will lead to your tenuous survival. If the heat doesn't last too long. And if you don't have anyone else is your house, not a likely circumstance globally considered. Almost like 35C wet is not very survivable. Your claim that 35C wet can be tolerated by most for hours contradicts the article, and your claim that it's more tolerable than 70C dry contradicts the concept of heat index. Anyhow, you're welcome for my charitably stepping in to let you know why you're being downvoted. You're stuck on pedantry and straw manning and pointless unproductive argument. The Hacker News collective had you pegged, and I'll just join the downvote parade and ignore your type in the future. I'm out.
Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by Aeolun on Saturday August 14, 2021 @04:44AM (#28179132)
Thanks for making my argument for me anyway ;) you said it better than I probably could.
Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by giantg2 on Thursday August 12, 2021 @02:46PM (#28159960)
I feel sorry for you.
Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by DHPersonal on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @09:59AM (#28142055)
Even if my air conditioner was still functional, its output, the attic-based tubing used to push the air around, and the cheaply-built and leaky house to which it all attaches would never be able to keep out the heat.
Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by Izkata on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @12:43PM (#28144363)
Also the outside end of the heat pump wouldn't be able to cool off, so it wouldn't be making any cool air inside anyway. The tipping point there seems to be way lower than the numbers above, around 50 C / 120 F.
Re:The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human t... by Aeolun on Saturday August 14, 2021 @04:47AM (#28179146)
Huh, that’s a good point. Never considered that.