Crows have been shown to understand the concept of zero

Re:Crows have been shown to understand the concept of zero by fsckboy on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:34PM (#28133177)

> some cultures assume humans must be fundamentally different - it’s not a universal notion.

Are you referring to hunter gatherers doing a mystical bear or eagle dance? Reincarnation as an ant? in those cases, it is belief in a non-corporeal spirit-being that underpins the other belief. Do you believe in non-corporeal spirit-beings, and if you do, aren't you more mystified by people who don't believe in them; or vice versa?

Otherwise, I'm skeptical and would love citations?

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Re:Crows have been shown to understand the concept of zero by burnished on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @04:31PM (#28134028)

Like, judeo-christianity? Western societies viewpoints on human intelligence and how it relates to animal intelligence for centuries? The notion, typically, is that while humans are animals our intelligence is not just different in degree but different in kind. I think it comes from that bit in the bible where their god places humans as above all other life forms, just a guess though.

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Re:Crows have been shown to understand the concept of zero by fsckboy on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @04:47PM (#28134276)

you're telling me what I know, where I'm asking about the commenter's claim that there are cultures that do NOT do this

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Re:Crows have been shown to understand the concept of zero by PaulDavisThe1st on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @11:09PM (#28137485)

It's not quite the same thing as "intelligence", but in "Braiding Sweetgrass" Robin Wall Kimmerer describes how (at least) several native American cultures ascribe great wisdom to the trees, since they've been here longer, and regard human wisdom as rather primitive.

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