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Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by jjgreen on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:28AM (#28117273)
From TFA:

The guidelines for the unvaccinated (that is, keep masking) haven’t changed, while the immunized are once again being called upon to act. “Asking people to mask up again is triggering a lot of emotional stuff,” Lindsey Leininger, a public-health-policy expert at Dartmouth, told me. “You can’t tell people that those feelings are invalid.”

Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by ranma4703 on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:38AM (#28117441)
The feelings are valid - all feelings are valid.

The reactions to those feelings ARE harmful to children, disabled people, and (yes) the unvaccinated. Even if you don't care about the last group, the first two groups don't deserve to get long COVID, or die, because you had a hard feel about having to wear something over your mouth.

Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by nemo44x on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:43AM (#28117519)
Covid will be here for years, if not forever. So at this point you might as well just admit that we will have to wear masks forever with this argument.

The pandemic is over for people that got vaccinated. For those that can't, they should evaluate their risks and act accordingly.

Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by ranma4703 on Monday August 09, 2021 @12:11PM (#28118653)
It isn't over though. People want it to be over, people are acting like it's over, and cases are rising rapidly. Wanting something to be true doesn't make it true.
Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by nemo44x on Monday August 09, 2021 @12:36PM (#28119001)
Get a jab, then it’s over for you. People have had plenty of time to get one. Everyone at Obama’s party agrees.
Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by mixmastamyk on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:57AM (#28117733)
Children don't suffer from it, statistically. That's why the vaccines were not tested on them earlier.
Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by ranma4703 on Monday August 09, 2021 @12:09PM (#28118626)
No, they do, we just decided to ignore that they do so parents could send their kids back to school https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/08/health/long-covid-kids.ht...
Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by mixmastamyk on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:11PM (#28119445)
Incorrect. The CDC numbers are a few clicks away so there is no excuse for ignorance here.

It's well known most people judge risk emotionally rather that rationally. We still need to get out of bed in the morning however.

Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by king_magic on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:30AM (#28117305)
I'm not sure what point you're going for here, but at the end of the day, when the Delta variant results in 1000x the viral load in the nose/mouth for both unvaccinated and vaccinated folks, the only responsible solution is for everyone to mask.

Had we not ended up in a situation where we're nowhere close to herd immunity because of the anti-vax sentiment through so much of the US population, the Delta variant might never have taken hold like it has. So I stand by my original statement.

Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by enchiridion on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:36AM (#28117416)
The Delta variant came out of India, so the US course of action is of little concern here.

Also, from the very beginning it has been stated that, like almost all respiratory illnesses, covid will become more contagious and less severe over time. Now that it has happened, everyone is pointing fingers.

Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by yehosef on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:35AM (#28117388)
> when the Delta variant results in 1000x the viral load in the nose/mouth

can you provide a reference for this?

Re:Masks Are Back, Maybe for the Long Term by king_magic on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:36AM (#28117415)
Plenty of info on this circulating on news sites.

https://www.google.com/search?q=delta+1000x+viral+load