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Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by Ir0nMan on Sunday August 08, 2021 @07:06PM (#28111037)
Until recently I thought we already settled this:

-People you believe are saying true things get to speak.

-People you believe are saying false things get to speak.

-People you believe are saying nice things get to speak.

-People you believe are saying mean things get to speak.

Everyone gets to speak. Individuals get to decide.

Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by jayd16 on Sunday August 08, 2021 @07:34PM (#28111192)
This is not what is currently up for debate. The current conflict is over control of private forums.

Its not a cut and dry issue either. If you were to own a site, anyone forcing you to post things to your site you don't believe is also an infringement of your rights. It cuts both ways.

In my eyes the major issue is the consolidation of discourse onto a few private forums, not whether or not those forums should be able to police themselves.

Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by umvi on Sunday August 08, 2021 @07:12PM (#28111066)
That was until we collectively decided harm reduction is a greater cause than freedom preservation. Now any and all freedoms we previously had can be temporarily, permanently, or conditionally suspended in the name of harm reduction (saved lives, fewer offended, etc.)
Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by owisd on Sunday August 08, 2021 @07:33PM (#28111186)
It’s not some recent idea that freedoms need to be balanced against the harm they can cause others. The harm principle has been around at least as long as On Liberty (1859), and it wasn’t really a new idea then.
Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by another_story on Sunday August 08, 2021 @07:37PM (#28111218)
While this is great in principle, some people's voice is much louder, and their words can devastate the lives of individuals, the economy and our society. Should there not be something in place to prevent people from spreading falsehoods that can lead to harming others? The solution is not as easy as what you've stated. In fact, I don't think there is a solution, only a continual rebalancing.