Re:SAML Is Insecure by Design
by KptMarchewa on Friday August 06, 2021 @04:59AM
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"Just" don't use the same database that the application is using for it's internal data.
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You can scope the DDL permissions to a single schema while still using the same database (and benefit from all the transactional guarantees a single database offers).
Re:SAML Is Insecure by Design
by KptMarchewa on Friday August 06, 2021 @07:44AM
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Yes, if database supports it (I guess every major ones now do) then it's great. Postgres's transactional DDL seems like great fit.
Re:SAML Is Insecure by Design
by ThePadawan on Friday August 06, 2021 @07:12AM
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I'm sorry, I don't follow.
I was talking about an application and its accompanying database, which would still be paid for and administered by the customer, not a database outside the application which it would be accessing.
That still raised many eyebrows.
I think the GP was assuming the reason sysadmins worry about running DDL is the danger of overwriting/modifying tables the application depends on.
If this is the main concern, you could have two databases (or schemas, if your database supports it).
One for application configuration/storage that the application never runs DDL on and another for user data, where the tables can be created/modified dynamically.
That separation means that, at worst, user data is screwed up if there's a bug in the DDL generation, but the application should still be able to run.
At least, that was my read.