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Re:Amazon postpones return to office until January 2022 by macintux on Thursday August 05, 2021 @04:01PM (#28078863)
That's easy to say as an experienced employee, but when you're a new hire and you have no clue what's going on around you because there are no conversations to accidentally overhear, no one sitting 3 feet away to ask random questions of, and no way to interpret your boss's apathy about your existence...

Plus reading here about certain companies' interest in pruning people ruthlessly...

I could see why morale among new hires would be problematic in this rather chaotic time.

Re:Amazon postpones return to office until January 2022 by rufus_foreman on Thursday August 05, 2021 @08:31PM (#28081868)
>> no conversations to accidentally overhear, no one sitting 3 feet away to ask random questions of

That's all done in chat now. Which on a personal level, that's how I've done it for a quarter of a century, but it's like that at work now too.

Re:Amazon postpones return to office until January 2022 by macintux on Thursday August 05, 2021 @10:34PM (#28082670)
I have found that many conversations that would have been public in an office setting are now held in private chats, or in specialized channels that particularly newcomers won't be a part of.

Additionally, someone who's new is much easier to spot and thus be reminded of when they're physically proximate. Someone new on chat who doesn't have much to contribute yet can very easily vanish, so while they may be able to pull information from others, much less information will be deliberately pushed their way.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but we have millennia of culture and evolution built around in-person interactions.

Re:Amazon postpones return to office until January 2022 by rufus_foreman on Thursday August 05, 2021 @10:57PM (#28082803)
>> I have found that many conversations that would have been public in an office setting are now held in private chats

I haven't seen that. What type of conversations that used to be public are you seeing being moved to private now that things are done through chat?

Re:Amazon postpones return to office until January 2022 by macintux on Thursday August 05, 2021 @11:15PM (#28082922)
Any time someone wants something from me specifically, or vice versa.
Re:Amazon postpones return to office until January 2022 by la6471 on Thursday August 05, 2021 @09:08PM (#28082118)
Exactly .