1) Author fabricates "facts" for his book
2) Tabloids copy those "facts" and add filler to fabricate outrage
3) Twitter outrage specialists pick these "facts" up and retweet
4) Other people form their opinion based on 1), 2), 3)
For me, he puts rockets in space, but also spreads a lot of misinformation or lies for self gain. I also don't think just because he's influential that his missteps should be labeled as eccentric versus selfish
Unless you know him personally, this statement reads like a naive teen idolising a politician that will 'fix' all issues. You dont know what he is like, what he wants out of the life. All you know is a public person he and his PR team puts out.
Whats your opinion on dalai lama? Read up on how he is behind the closed door. Kind, humble, head bowing monk or a leader of exiled country and religion under attack by china?
> Jumping down his throat for bad jokes seems like it actively hinders human kind's progress.
Judging Musk by his actions not promises nor PR speeches, he is at least an asshole. Whatever he is IRL one thing is sure, he is not a saviour nor a tech jesus just a businessman.
He has no pr team. He has done tons of one on one interviews where he puts forth his viewpoint in long form podcasts. Sure he says some ambitious stuff but it is backed up by his actions.
> Whats your opinion on dalai lama? Read up on how he is behind the closed door. Kind, humble, head bowing monk or a leader of exiled country and religion under attack by china?
Seems slightly off topic. I haven't formed a coherent opinion.
> Judging Musk by his actions not promises nor PR speeches, he is at least an asshole. Whatever he is IRL one thing is sure, he is not a saviour nor a tech jesus just a businessman
I don't dispute that he can be an asshole. If he is able to complete the current projects he had in flight he will have had the largest positive impact on climate change than any other person on earth. He is not some business man adding no value. Take a look at the new booster that was rolled out yesterday, humans are going to the friggin moon again and then Mars. Tesla has single handedly made electric cars cool and started the process of getting out of combustion engines. He launched a $100m x prize for carbon capture. He is actually getting shit done and is not some politician. Yes, he is a businessman. To achieve his goals he needs to do that or become a super villain and take over the resources of a good chunk of the world.
See for example:
Everyday Astronaut recent Musk interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t705r8ICkRw
Munro interview with Musk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAtLTLiqNwg
There are also other examples where Musk talks about things it's hard to imagine of him even being aware of if he's not building anything.
1) Be infamous
2) Have a Twitter account
3) Lie
Not just opinion but mental disease diagnoses.
Predictable. I've known for the better part of a year, that certain groupthink crowds would start to go after Elon Musk. The groupthink crowds eventually go after anyone who thinks for themselves and refuses to bend the knee.
Instead of facts, they use circular references and guilt by association. Also: The phenomenon I just described is independent of point on the political spectrum.
I'm always thrown when public figures who have an obvious incentive to lie are taken at their word in public statements. It happens all the time with politicians and CEOs.
If you look at where Musk seems to add value, it's 100% in the management zone. Well, that and the other CEO duties of representing the company to the public.
But it appears you have made up your mind as it seems to be the simplest answer.
If I thought my boss was technically clueless and needed to say something nice about him, I would probably phrase it the same way: "He's obviously a pretty incredible person in many ways. I'm still trying to really map out his superpowers. He has incredibly well developed intuition in many aspects where he makes the right judgement calls in what I perceive to be a lack of information. Because he's not in detail about all the things but his judgement is extremely good. I still haven't fully understood how that happens."
I've seen him say quite negative things about Tesla, and quite positive things about Tesla's competitors. Examples: He stated that the Ford Mach-E battery case is a structural component. He's also touted injection molding as a means of achieving some of the same things that Tesla is doing with aluminum casting. He praised some aspects of the ID4 motor housing design as superior to Tesla.
Can you give me an example of something Sandy Munro has said which IS NOT something good about a Tesla product, where he has clearly sacrificed engineering concerns? As to his statements about Tesla products, everything he's said makes sense to me, and it's my sense that almost all people who call him a Tesla shill simply don't like what he has to say.
What I've seen from him, he always shows a clear bias towards Tesla.
> Can you give me an example of something Sandy Munro has said which IS NOT something good about a Tesla product, where he has clearly sacrificed engineering concerns?
When I say he's a Tesla shill, it's specifically because of the positive things he says about Tesla.
For example, here [1] he claims that the FSD Beta is currently at level 4 and "full self-driving" is just around the corner. Do you agree with that?
[1] https://twitter.com/alex_avoigt/status/1388838246705152001
- Numbers of fasteners in subsystems
- Total length of cooling hoses
- Total weight of coolant
- Weight of the body in white
- Efficiency vs. total energy of pack
- Part counts
It looks like Sandy Munroe is doing a fair comparison based on sound engineering principles. On the other hand, I think you just don't like what he has to say with regards to Tesla.
Right. Checks out. There's certainly solid engineering logic and reasoning there!
So, if that's your best example, are you tacitly admitting you can't think of any mechanical engineering examples?
2) His mechanical engineering content comprises about 99% of what he says about Tesla.
Given these two factors, your (seemingly only) supportable observation seems awfully weak.
But it's very common to have people involved in the engineering process e.g. Business Analysts, Project Managers, Testers who have a deep understanding of how things work. And by all accounts have excellent technical capability.
That doesn't mean they have the ability to design or build the thing though.
But yet he is still the CEO of Tesla.
Just because someone says they want to do something doesn't mean they will.
But plenty of evidence that it has a lot of negative consequences.
For example, the book says Elon wanted to be Apple's CEO post Tesla acquisition on a phone call. But Elon said it many times over the years that he rather spend his time on engineering and design over management.
Edit: Also Tim Cook mentioned in an interview that he never spoke with Elon Musk.