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Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by underwater on Monday August 02, 2021 @07:59AM (#28035476)
That's the very reason I stay on the fringes of the Apple ecosystem. The approach of an Apple branded version of everything means that if you don't want exactly what they give you then you have a terrible time. You're either all in or all out.

I don't consider myself overly dogmatic about controlling my devices or data but the thought of going all in on one tech company for my gadgets for the next decade or so is both gross and, to be honest, really boring. I don't see how I could get excited about tech when the only choice I get is what colour it is (or the storage space).

Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by matt_s on Monday August 02, 2021 @09:23AM (#28036183)
Really boring is how I want my phone to behave: secure and boring. The fact they have a watch that works seamlessly also helps.

I don’t think of these things as gadgets anymore. In the past I’ve built a Linux DVR - so I know how to tinker and find it fun for certain things but not things I depend on and want to behave like appliances. I don’t tinker with my refrigerator or my automobile either.

Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by salamandersauce on Monday August 02, 2021 @10:21AM (#28036872)
I would describe modern Android as boring and not require tinkering either. Secure is tougher and up to the OEM to keep up with patches.

Certain things with iOS are just overly difficult like getting files on or off or trying to add new music to the music app without a PC.

Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by stjohnswarts on Monday August 02, 2021 @01:22PM (#28039664)
Android is extremely secure if you don't put a bunch of relatively unknown apps on it and don't root it. I would say on par with iphone easily. I only pick iphone because they do a much better job of keeping apps and such from spying on you. Also android is constantly updating the google mothership on your location and habits.
Re:Apple is now an antifragile company by mastrsushi on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:01PM (#28043261)
You don’t think Apple does any surveillance and sell to companies? They don’t reject apps that spy, just the ones that do without a benefit to them.