Re:Google Cloud reported an operating loss of $5.6B in 2020
by ignoramous on Sunday August 01, 2021 @07:08PM
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> Microsoft dangles carrots for Azure, but the Microsoft sales culture will start beating customers over the head with the carrots.
I reckon a good deal of Oracle sales force now works at AWS. Thomas Kurian, GCP CEO, is ex-Oracle and has likely hired more in leadership positions. MSFT would do fine, if not better, with their in-house sales team.
Re:Google Cloud reported an operating loss of $5.6B in 2020
by samspenc on Sunday August 01, 2021 @08:20PM
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> I reckon a good deal of Oracle sales force now works at AWS. Thomas Kurian, GCP CEO, is ex-Oracle and has likely hired more in leadership positions.
Sorry just want to clarify: did you mean to say "reckon a good deal of Oracle sales force now works at GCE", so a typo? Or are you saying that a lot of the Oracle sales staff now work at AWS (even though Kurian who is ex-Oracle works at GCE)?
Not critiquing, just a honest question since I couldn't tell if it was a typo or not.
Re:Google Cloud reported an operating loss of $5.6B in 2020
by ignoramous on Sunday August 01, 2021 @08:29PM
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No problem. I did indeed mean that per my estimates, AWS sales is likely bustling with ex-Oracles; while GCP may have them too, since the CEO himself was, by some accounts, #2 at Oracle.
Re:Google Cloud reported an operating loss of $5.6B in 2020
by gogopuppygogo on Sunday August 01, 2021 @07:06PM
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The partner distribution network Microsoft has cultivated for decades is a real differentiator over Googles misguided approach to partner sales.
Re:Google Cloud reported an operating loss of $5.6B in 2020
by k2enemy on Sunday August 01, 2021 @07:22PM
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They likely are making large capital investments, but that shouldn't show up all that much in operating numbers. Personnel expenses would though.
Re:Google Cloud reported an operating loss of $5.6B in 2020
by lumost on Sunday August 01, 2021 @07:35PM
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that could be a choice in the accounting department not to separate R&D and operational expenses when accounting for software engineers. Many engineers bristle at such accounting measures.
I used to run a pre-O365 large exchange shared service that topped off at ~200k users. When we were growing 50% year over year, we were “losing” a fortune depending on how to measure it. You want to do that, as making a profit today may mean losing the lifetime value of a long term customer.
I think Google has a good thing going. AWS is the incumbent, but has its own legacy to deal with. Microsoft dangles carrots for Azure, but the Microsoft sales culture will start beating customers over the head with the carrots.