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Re:Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contra... by ImprobableTruth on Saturday July 31, 2021 @04:05PM (#28021158)
Space is expensive. Bezos is pumping 1 billion per year into the company and the blue origin proposal was for 13 billion. Even for Bezos that's not chump change.
Re:Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contra... by _Microft on Saturday July 31, 2021 @04:36PM (#28021343)
Too much money might be part of Blue Origin's problem to deliver. SpaceX did not have the luxury to take ages, they had to build a working rocket to be able make money or die otherwise.

I can only recommend Eric Berger's excellent book "Liftoff" to gain insights into SpaceX' way of working to get the Falcon 1 rocket off the ground and eventually into orbit. I cannot imagine Blue Origin having operated in a similar way at any point in their history.

Re:Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contra... by adrr on Saturday July 31, 2021 @04:15PM (#28021222)
It’s like an average person spending $1,000 per year for a hobby.
Re:Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contra... by dillondoyle on Saturday July 31, 2021 @04:53PM (#28021456)
And at 200bb producing 'income' it's hard to grasp how huge that is. Even at what in this market is a super conservative 5%...
Re:Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contra... by pmoriarty on Saturday July 31, 2021 @04:09PM (#28021184)
All the more reason to cooperate and pool resources instead of duplicating effort.
Re:Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contra... by kelnos on Saturday July 31, 2021 @04:13PM (#28021212)
I'm not so sure, though. I think there's still an argument to be made for multiple approaches and different technology, which you're not likely to get if everyone works together. I'm not sure that "avoiding a monoculture" is important for this sort of thing, but maybe it can't hurt?

Another problem when multiple independent orgs pool resources and work together is you either end up with design-by-committee (which leads to overengineering and extra expense, both of which are anti-goals for SpaceX and BO), or deadlock when the parties can't agree. And you'd better believe personalities like Musk and Bezos would clash a lot if they ever did a joint venture on something.

Re:Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contra... by pmoriarty on Saturday July 31, 2021 @05:12PM (#28021601)
"you'd better believe personalities like Musk and Bezos would clash a lot if they ever did a joint venture on something"

If they clash a lot it's proof they're not good at cooperating.

So maybe the answer is that Musk and Bezos are good at competing, but not good at cooperating.

That doesn't mean that cooperation is a losing strategy, but just that one has to be good at cooperating in order to succeed at it.

Re:Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contra... by Meandering on Saturday July 31, 2021 @06:35PM (#28022084)
People like to romanticize market competition as a epic battle of great minds and ideas that we all benefit from... but, in all honestly, it allows for comparative testing of diverse ideas while keeping pricing honest. Cooperation might lower the "cost" of producing similar products but, then we are producing similar products. A major goal of competition is to prevent us from putting all our eggs in one basket.

I mean what if all the space companies decided to use one company's rocket engine and they failed to delivery...

Re:Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contra... by avereveard on Saturday July 31, 2021 @05:55PM (#28021873)
"Let's pool 9 woman and birth a 14 foot tall baby"
Re:Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contra... by kiba on Saturday July 31, 2021 @05:38PM (#28021779)
One company works slow, the other company works fast.