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Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by traceroute66 on Friday July 30, 2021 @01:35PM (#28010335)
Rant time.... ;-)

What's with these stupid "X in Y" numeric expressions that the dumb media insist on continuing to heap on the world ?

Why not consistently use a standardised means of comparison.

Like, I don't know .... percent. Or "X in 100" if you think your newspaper/blog/website readership are too dumb to know what the % symbol means. The clue's in the name FFS ... per... cent ... that's what its there for !

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Friday July 30, 2021 @01:46PM (#28010450)
I generally agree with your sentiment, but not in this case. They're doing it here because fractional humans don't exist in real life, and the measure isn't being used for comparison.

"1 in 153 people" is easier for the human mind to visualize than "0.65 out of every 100 people."

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by kube-system on Friday July 30, 2021 @01:49PM (#28010473)
Ratios and fractions are covered in (hopefully?) every grade school, usually right along side percentages. They're an entirely valid representation of data.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/6th_Grade_Math_Workbook...

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by throwslackforce on Friday July 30, 2021 @02:02PM (#28010601)
You can't have a fraction of a person. The probability of having .65 out of 100 people working for Amazon is zero, no matter which 100 people you select. 1 out of 153 can at least happen.
Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by drdec on Friday July 30, 2021 @03:41PM (#28011555)
We should start using the birthday paradox number (BPN) to express these things. That is, the smallest group of people such that the probability that at least one of them will exhibit the criteria is greater than 50%.

In this case, the BPN for working at Amazon is 107 (assuming everyone in the group is a worker).

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by 6gvONxR4sf7o on Friday July 30, 2021 @02:53PM (#28011076)
X in <CONSTANT> is just the inverse of <CONSTANT> in X. Each is appropriate at different times. 0.0004 is the same as 1 in 2500. I feel like 1 in 2500 is more intuitive, and that's generally the case for rare events, because it is oriented around answering the question "how rare is this?"
Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by neolog on Friday July 30, 2021 @01:40PM (#28010397)
"1 in Y" is simpler than "X in 100". 100 introduces an irrelevant big number.
Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by caturopath on Friday July 30, 2021 @01:58PM (#28010561)
I think OP's intuition is probably wrong and that "1 in Y" is more effective than "X%".

That being said, it is tricky to move the adjustment between the numerator and denominator, and there are cases where this choice can be key -- "25 miles per gallon" is indeed a far worse metric to use than "4 gallons per 100 miles".

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by throwaway672000 on Friday July 30, 2021 @06:40PM (#28013298)
I don't think I would see anything wrong with gallons per 100 miles if I was used to it. Especially if it was "gallons per megamile" or whatever.

You see (at least in the UK) dishwashers say they only use x litres of water per wash or even things like "this only costs 10p an hour running costs".

It feels like one less step to get to "how much would this car cost me for my 250 miles a week" - which seems more common than "I can afford exactly 2 gallons of petrol a week, how far can I get with this car".

Maybe I'd feel differently if we bought fuel in the same units we measured its consumption in!

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by ingas on Friday July 30, 2021 @06:52PM (#28013407)
I don't see anything wrong in measuring gallons per mile and measuring in yards and other non-metric systems when it's something local. Maybe it's convinient if you live somewhere where everybody accustomed to that.

It's when I see articles about space exploration with miles and pounds - it feels wrong.

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by samatman on Friday July 30, 2021 @02:51PM (#28011042)
It isn't if you know the capacity of your tank in gallons, and want to know how far you can drive on average before refilling it.

Or if you know the price of gasoline, and want to know how far you can drive for some amount of money.

In fact I'm struggling to come up with practical circumstances where gallons per 100 miles is what I'd want to know, could you explain why that seems better to you?

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by caturopath on Friday July 30, 2021 @03:55PM (#28011718)
Fuel economy is typically printed the same place range already is computed =)

mpg is used to indicate fuel economy, comparing among cars. People might think -- do think -- that the difference between a 15mpg car and a 25mpg car is similar to the difference between a 25mpg car and a 35mpg car. But the difference is nowhere close in amount of gas saved per year of similar driving between the two. The former is a great boon to the environment and the pocketbook, but the latter is much more modest.

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by cs2733 on Friday July 30, 2021 @03:18PM (#28011327)
In Portugal (and I guess several other countries) fuel economy is defined as "how many liters per 100 km?". In Brazil it's "how many km per liter?".
Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by neolog on Friday July 30, 2021 @03:24PM (#28011371)
> Equal increases in MPG are not equal in gas savings.

http://www.mpgillusion.com/p/what-is-mpg-illusion.html

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by seattle_spring on Friday July 30, 2021 @04:25PM (#28011975)
Why is "1 in X" so much worse than "X in 100"?
Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by lordnacho on Friday July 30, 2021 @04:39PM (#28012101)
Every time X goes up 1 in the first example, the amount that's actually changed is different. In the second, it's the same.

I've eaten 1/5 of the pizza. Now 1/4. Now 1/3. Slices are all different sizes.

I've eaten 20% of the pizza. Now 40%. Now 60%. Slices are the same.

Re:1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee by niij on Friday July 30, 2021 @04:54PM (#28012238)
It's not. They just need something to complain about.