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Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by ekianjo on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:47AM (#27983678)
"infect" is not the right word. Prions are not viruses, they do not replicate, they ravage other proteins in their surroundings by misfolding them over and over again until it becomes a fatal pathology.
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by dnautics on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:56AM (#27983777)
It's a self-replicating protein fold. Infection is correct. (I Did prion research in grad school)
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by dekhn on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:04AM (#27983877)
Techynically you are incorrect. Infect is the right word. Worked at the institution that established this. (I do not believe that koch's postulates cover all cases of 'infection').
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by jamespwilliams on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:49AM (#27983699)
The word "prion" is actually a contraction of the words "protein" and "infection". (edit: although I agree it's not what one might conventionally think of as an "infection")
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by knicholes on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:18AM (#27984058)
Contraction or portmanteau?
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by pygy_ on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @02:33PM (#27987710)
Contraction :

A portmanteau word is similar to a contraction, but contractions are formed from words that would otherwise appear together in sequence, such as do and not to make don't, whereas a portmanteau is formed by combining two or more existing words that all relate to a single concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portmanteau

"Motel" and "fog" are portmanteaus, because you wouldn't put "motor hotel" or "smoke fog" in sentences that accept the accretions, whereas you could swap "prion" for "protein infection".

Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by JohnBooty on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @03:50PM (#27988872)
typo -

    "Motel" and "fog" are portmanteaus, because you 
    wouldn't put "motor hotel" or "smoke fog"
s/b

    "Motel" and "smog" are portmanteaus, because you 
    wouldn't put "motor hotel" or "smoke fog"
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by fabiospampinato on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @11:04AM (#27984668)
What things are named and what they are don't necessarily coincide. E.g.: native americans are called "indians".
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by jjk166 on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @11:46AM (#27985186)
But typically they do, and this is one of that vast majority of cases.
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by ben_w on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @11:23AM (#27984900)
A better etymological example would be that Stonehenge, after which the category “henge” is named, isn’t a henge.

(Aside from actual domain experts in this thread saying it is an infection, that is).

Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by ekianjo on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:52AM (#27983729)
I know, but it's a poor choice of word since it's nothing like viruses or bacteria.
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by nkmnz on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @09:57AM (#27983785)
Viruses are nothing like bacteria, so it doesn’t make any sense to restrict the term of “infection” to those two.
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by Asraelite on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @03:16PM (#27988363)
It is interesting though that we don't consider things like lead and radiation to be "infections".

Is the difference between an infection and poisoning replication?

Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by Enginerrrd on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @05:14PM (#27989802)
I'd say so.
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by robbrown451 on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @01:41PM (#27986749)
Prions are considered infectious, although when they were first proposed it was essentially heresy that something could be infectious without containing any nucleic acid (DNA/RNA).

Whether they self-replicate or not is sort of a semantic issue. They replicate in the same way "fallen-down dominos" replicate.

Prior to being a prion, they are an already complex protein, but by folding a particular way, they become a prion, which causes other proteins of the same type to fold similarly.

Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by nabla9 on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:01AM (#27983826)
Infect is exactly the right word.

Infectious disease is also called transmissible diseases. Infectious microorganism or agent can be a virus, bacterium, protozoan, prion, viroid, or fungus.

Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by webmaven on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @11:37AM (#27985068)
Don't forget memes. Not the current pop-culture meaning of the term, but the original Dawkins version, which stretches to cover things like mass-hysteria.
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by LatteLazy on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:04AM (#27983879)
Don't prions reproduce by re-folding other proteins to match themselves?
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by ekianjo on Thursday July 29, 2021 @08:57AM (#27995928)
they dont replicate.
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by LatteLazy on Thursday July 29, 2021 @01:06PM (#27998727)
Actually, they do. They refold normal proteins into more versions of themselves. I went and checked after this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion#Prion_replication

There is a complex dependence on forming fibres that makes them slow (long lead time to symptoms) and then fast (dead soon after getting sick).

Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by gostsamo on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:11AM (#27983958)
Infection means contamination / spoilage.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/infection

Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by jjk166 on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @11:48AM (#27985203)
Prions contaminate
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by LatteLazy on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @05:20PM (#27989873)
I'm just saying it does reproduce (or replicate to use the exact same word op used). Whether it's correct to use any of the other terms I will leave to others
Re:France issues moratorium on prion research after fatal br... by ekster on Wednesday July 28, 2021 @10:08AM (#27983921)
Infect is definitely the right word here.