You’re conflating liking the act and liking the consequences of the act.

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Not claiming this at all, didn’t mention alcohol. What I am proposing is many groups (esp religious ‘addiction’ services) _organizing_ come from a place of authoritarian, paternalistic and moral policing of those they believe are “weak”.

> Not claiming this at all, didn’t mention alcohol.

Wait, so you claim it of people who want to quit unspecified "hard drugs", but not alcohol specifically? Attendance to alcoholics anonymous is voluntary (usually, though sometimes a court compels it.) Use of this application is also voluntary. So what's the fundamental difference here?

> groups (esp religious ‘addiction’ services) _organizing_

If this is really key to what you're getting at, then it makes no sense for you to exclude Alcoholics Anonymous from your ire since that is an organized group that is religion-adjacent if not outright religious.

You are missing what I’m saying. It’s not about a particular substance. All power to folks who want to face their demons. I want people the be healthy, like anyone else. This isn’t about the people wanting to quit.

It’s about the people that are building structures to enforce their own morality and dressing it up as helping addiction. Those that prey on those wanting to quit.

> building structures to enforce their own morality

You mean, applications that people voluntarily choose to use? You still haven't pointed out any authoritarianism from Atmana.