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Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by heavyset_go on Monday July 26, 2021 @06:53PM (#27966487)
> For example, if you buy a car there are safety features you cannot turn off without major modifications.

To use a direct analogy with Apple's restrictions on users, you're free to modify and flash your car's ECU firmware. In fact, it's quite common.

Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by dev_tty01 on Monday July 26, 2021 @07:30PM (#27966809)
>In fact, it's quite common.

Really? How have you defined common? Where is that data from? I can't imagine anything more than a tiny fraction of car owners are doing this. Most people are not hacking their cars, building Raspberry Pi controllers for their toilets, or have any desire whatsoever to side load an app on their iPhone. The HN community is not representative of the overall population.

Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by Nextgrid on Monday July 26, 2021 @09:35PM (#27967625)
It's common enough that there's a legitimate industry around that and a lot of auto-tuning shops will do it on request. In most cases though it's just editing the built-in data tables rather than completely replacing the firmware, and it's often done for engine performance reasons rather than bypassing safety features.
Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by eecc on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @03:34AM (#27969662)
And possibly blowing the cars’ mileage and emissions limits which were defined by regulation and would make the car illegal to drive if measured…
Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by heavyset_go on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @01:42AM (#27969018)
Mechanics do it often, as do people who work on their cars. It isn't the Hacker News segment that is doing it, but the people who work on cars for a living or for fun.
Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by mason55 on Monday July 26, 2021 @11:01PM (#27968172)
And you’re free to jailbreak your phone. It’s not illegal. No ones going to arrest you.

But no one says the car manufacturers are required to make a car where you can flash the ECU. There’s just no reason for them to block it. If someone came up with a way to steal your car by tricking your into running an app that flashed your ECU then you can bet Ford would disable it pretty quickly.

Re:About the security content of iOS 14.7.1 and iPadOS 14.7.1 by tatersolid on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @01:50PM (#27975386)
> But no one says the car manufacturers are required to make a car where you can flash the ECU. There’s just no reason for them to block it.

Sure there is… if they are providing warranty on the vehicle then they should definitely block ECU mods, as a customer could flash original firmware back after causing damage.

And I imagine you can easily make an engine over-rev or overheat with a modded ECU, perhaps to the point of causing a fire or other catastrophe.