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Re:Japan pitches 'Society 5.0' to keep its edge in tech and ... by samstave on Monday July 26, 2021 @12:39PM (#27961604)
Having built out infra in Japan - it was a really strange experience, esp WRT dealing with Data Centers...

There was this one data center in Tokyo that we needed to put stuff into - and we needed a GPS antenna on the roof of the DC piped down to our cage...

The DC itself was the most aesthetically beautiful DC I have been to; Bamboo forest and waterfall in the lobby, black granite everywhere, the receptionists were two beautiful women... The place was pristine in look and super super clean.

We met with the execs that ran it and they agreed to all our requests - to pull lines from the roof to our cage, etc...

But in the end, they said yes to everything, but didnt actually do anything that was requested.

It was a waste of a trip (aside from the fun we had while not doing work), but it was stunning how much work was turned down based on them saying yes, but not actually doing any of the work requested...

Re:Japan pitches 'Society 5.0' to keep its edge in tech and ... by tovej on Monday July 26, 2021 @01:26PM (#27962245)
This might be a cultural/linguistic barrier you went up against. It might also not be related to what happened to you, but it feels like it is.

Japanese use a lot of back-channel chatter when they talk to indicate that they are actively listening (Auzuchi). This includes saying "Yes" to indicate "Yes, I understand what you are saying" instead of "Yes, I agree that we should do as you are suggesting". They may not always indicate disagreement by saying "No" either, but simply by not committing to your suggestion when its their turn to talk (or some other, subtler expression than "No", such as a head tilt and an intake of breath)

This active listening behavior has apparently led to similar misunderstandings before.

Of course, if you made sure you actually came to a clear agreement with the execs, it's an entirely different story.

Re:Japan pitches 'Society 5.0' to keep its edge in tech and ... by retrac on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:40PM (#27965159)
True. Cliche almost. More cultural than linguistic. Plenty of (usually different) contexts in America or the UK where "Mhm", "sure", and "we are looking forward to moving ahead with that" means nuh-uh.
Re:Japan pitches 'Society 5.0' to keep its edge in tech and ... by tonyedgecombe on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @08:44AM (#27971730)
I've seen a similar situation, I went to visit a Japanese supplier in the UK with a mutual customer. The customer went with a long list of demands which were all agreed to.

After the meeting the customer was very upbeat but in the end the supplier never did anything they had promised.

It was interesting to observe this as a somewhat independent outsider. I came away with the impression that the people at the supplier had some disdain for their customer.