PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by pjmlp on Sunday July 25, 2021 @07:51AM (#27948464)

Indeed, and they do so willingness, because the Linux kernel is a detail completely hidden away to them.

The OS vendor can change the kernel being used, and those average users won't notice it all.

The only quality is being a free beer OS, that the OEM vendors can leech at will without bothering one second up-streaming their changes.

And when the community started to be too vocal about it, efforts to use MIT/BSD licensed alternatives were set in motion.

In a couple of years those router OSes, smart televisions, Android phones won't be using the Linux kernel any longer.

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Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by akho on Sunday July 25, 2021 @10:55AM (#27949580)

The quality is being solid, easy to develop for, and, yes, free. I think you overestimate the ability of appliance companies to develop proprietary OS kernels.

MIT/BSD licensed stuff is still free software.

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Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by pjmlp on Sunday July 25, 2021 @12:17PM (#27950329)

Having fun enjoying the free software from PlayStation 4 OS?

I advise you to read about Zephyr OS, FreeRTOS, Azure RTOS, Fuchsia, NuttX,....

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Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by akho on Sunday July 25, 2021 @01:31PM (#27951125)

Zephyr is Apache licensed, FreeRTOS MIT, Fuchsia BSD/MIT/Apache, NuttX Apache. ThreadX is the only one on your list that's not free software, and the success it achieved over its 24 years of existence is not anything to write home about.

A closed-source OS in this space has no real chance, as it has to be adapted by hardware makers. Microsoft may be able to provide the backing for wider ThreadX adoption, but don't hold your breath.

I don't see how the fact that BSD allows proprietary forks implies it is not high-quality software.

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Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by pjmlp on Sunday July 25, 2021 @04:57PM (#27952845)

I could bother to explain, but will let the Apples, Amazons, Facebooks,Sonys of the world let you know how the rules of the game in big boys club.

Again, where is the source code to Playstation OS 4 or clang bitcode changes for watchOS?

Got to love FOSS.

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Re:PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Li... by akho on Sunday July 25, 2021 @06:10PM (#27953398)

I do not understand what you are talking about. This started as a proposition that “normal users do not use Linux”. They obviously do. You are sore that corporations use BSD licensed code without letting us see or modify their forks. So am I. What does that have to do with the topic?

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