News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by sillysaurusx on Saturday July 24, 2021 @06:00AM (#27939588)
I think it's silly that people feel this is related to privacy. No, no one is under any illusion that this reduces google's knowledge of you. But rah rah, bang the privacy drum! Privacy is the only possible reason! The dummies need to be informed that google and privacy don't get along!

Bah, I'm getting cranky tonight. I'll log off. Good luck with the privacy fight. I mean that genuinely; I don't think anyone really cares, beyond posting a few comments on message boards. Duckduckgo is a nice alternative, but how many programmers actually use it to find answers to programming questions? And even if a few do, I really don't get what the privacy crap is all about here.

Google added a feature that we can use to do neutral searches. That's awesome, and they deserve praise for it. But nooooo, the privacy is the ultimate altar.

Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by the_other on Saturday July 24, 2021 @06:25AM (#27939688)
> Duckduckgo is a nice alternative, but how many programmers actually use it to find answers to programming questions?

At least one. I’ve been using DDG exclusively for two or three years now. If I’m really stuck, I go straight to StackOverflow.

Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by Gabrys1 on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:14AM (#27940667)
Same here. Whenever the results (software related or not) are bad, I try Google search instead, but I can't remember the last time the results from Google were any better (ergo, there's no point in using Google search for me anymore)
Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by larusso on Saturday July 24, 2021 @06:40AM (#27939743)
Also count me in. I switched 4 or 5 years ago and never had much issues finding answers to my programming questions.
Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by duncan-donuts on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:25AM (#27941712)
Yeah this is a tired argument from the early days of ddg. Back in the day it was really bad for programming but these days it’s on par with Google at worst and usually better. I’ve used ddg almost exclusively since 2012/2013.
Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by erdo on Saturday July 24, 2021 @06:00PM (#27944809)
Yep same, maybe 4 years just using ddg. About once or twice a year I'll try a Google search if I'm really getting nowhere (sometimes helps, sometimes doesn't)
Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by feanaro on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:00AM (#27940552)
Your comment is kind of boring in its dismissiveness, but you acknowledged you're getting cranky so I'll take that as the explanation. In any case, there are those that care (I'm one of them) and we would appreciate if you could refrain from cheap dismissals.
Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by sillysaurusx on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:13AM (#27941600)
Yeah! I just needed some sleep. I'll try to be a little more self aware in the future.

Nonetheless, the thrust of it is something I feel at my core; "Google did a good thing" here, but "you won't acknowledge any good thing." Personally, I find that lame, especially with privacy arguments that seem very much like strawmen.

Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by feanaro on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @05:11AM (#27970289)
I really appreciate your response. :)

And yes, I agree good things should be acknowledged regardless of where they are coming from. I think people are generally just jaded with Google because they want something that Google will never be able to offer (that is, to be respectful of their privacy), so they lash out automatically out of frustration.

Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by NateEag on Saturday July 24, 2021 @08:32AM (#27940351)
I've been using DDG primarily for about two years now.

It mostly works well enough.

Since I use Vimium, when it doesn't, redoing the search on Google is just a few keystrokes:

gi<Control-a>!g Enter

That's 'gi' for 'focus text input', Control-a for beginning of line, add the DDG "google this" shortcut, press return.

It's in my spinal cord, and I don't need it that often anyway.

Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by tidbeck on Saturday July 24, 2021 @11:05AM (#27941532)
Vimium (for Firefox at least) supports custom search engines so you can do:

og<space> my-search<enter>

'o' for open and 'g<space>' to select Google as search engine.

Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by NateEag on Sunday July 25, 2021 @09:10AM (#27948923)
Oh, thanks! I hadn't realized that was an option.
Re:Choose whether Search can show you personal results based... by JasonFruit on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:07AM (#27940605)
For the last few years, DDG has been good enough for coding questions and for general use. In fact, it's been better for general use than Google for a while now.