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Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by Beldin on Saturday July 24, 2021 @04:35AM (#27939284)
Not to take away from Sci-Hub, but even without institutional access, there are often alternatives:

- more and more research institutes have a public repository of articles.

- plenty of authors put their own (preprints of) papers on their personal website, a preprint server like arxiv, or researchgate.

- lastly, you can mail an author and request a preprint. Not all will reply, but plenty will be happy that someone noticed their work and send a copy.

Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by dredmorbius on Saturday July 24, 2021 @01:10PM (#27942626)
Many of the papers I'm interested in are published long ago and the authors dead.

For some reason, they're also slow to respond to emails.

For any papers published before 1965, even with maximal renewals available at the time of publication, the works would now be in the public domain under copyright law at the time of publication. Otherwise, many works published prior to 1976 which were either only renewed once or never registered would similarly have lapsed to public domain, or always been so.

That's a huge effectively-lost trove of knowledge.

Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by selfhoster11 on Saturday July 24, 2021 @05:33AM (#27939484)
Those take effort and time (hours or days) to make them work. Sci-Hub type solutions are the only way to make this work at scale.
Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by Beldin on Saturday July 24, 2021 @06:03AM (#27939602)
Oh definitely it takes more effort than Sci-Hub. Should've mentioned that in the post.

For a single paper, googling for the pdf, failing that, searching for author page / institutional repo doesn't take much effort. A few minutes, I'd guess.

That still becomes prohibitive for >10 papers sought. Then you need institutional access, something like Sci-Hub, or a lot of patience.

Mailing works as a last resort option.

Honestly, part of the reason i jump through such hoops is to justify not including a paper. I have institutional access and all these options. If none of that suffices, I feel justified in considering the alleged article as not part of the scientific record.

Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by akiselev on Saturday July 24, 2021 @12:16PM (#27942135)
> That still becomes prohibitive for >10 papers sought. Then you need institutional access, something like Sci-Hub, or a lot of patience.

That's a fraction of the citations on most interesting papers. I'm not a practicing scientist (now or ever) so my access patterns are different but every time I explore a topic in academic journals that process becomes prohibitively expensive almost immediately. Even when I had institutional access it was a pain in the ass - without SciHub every doi is a game of subscription roulette.

Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by throwaway-x123 on Saturday July 24, 2021 @05:36AM (#27939491)
I do not know, I use scholar.google.com and most of the publications not accessible for free. It is impossible to ignore a publication if you do not have access to it, it is highly demotivating, like doing something that is already done.

Asking by email.. too many publications at the moment.

Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Saturday July 24, 2021 @05:01AM (#27939351)
Imagine if every citation contained a URL: "Email author to request a preprint". Authors often include email addresses in papers or at least an affiliated instution. Their contact information is usually public. Aside from people who have been graduate students not many doing research are going to understand that this is possible. Never have I seen a citations service that makes users aware of it. There must be reasons they dont.
Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by ekianjo on Saturday July 24, 2021 @06:56AM (#27939816)
All of your solutions require extra manual work, and are therefore inferior.
Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by anfogoat on Saturday July 24, 2021 @09:40AM (#27940853)
And most importantly, only work some % of the time.
Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by cortesoft on Saturday July 24, 2021 @12:25PM (#27942226)
So if you have access to all the papers anyway, why make it harder than it has to be? What is the point of shutting down sci-hub?
Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by rzzzt on Saturday July 24, 2021 @05:01AM (#27939350)
CiteSeerˣ is a great resource for CS papers: https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/index
Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by throwawayboise on Saturday July 24, 2021 @01:16PM (#27942680)
If you have a public university nearby, you can access most popular journals in the libraries. Since they are state funded, generally any resident of the state has a right to use their libraries.
Re:Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended by agumonkey on Saturday July 24, 2021 @01:02PM (#27942547)
Maybe scihub was a protoevent quickly dying but spreading the way to do on other official places.