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Re:SARS-CoV-2 Gamma variant infected 16 fully Pfizer vaccina... by lmilcin on Friday July 23, 2021 @04:29AM (#27928488)
> As other commenters have noted, this case study further supports the widespread observations that COVID-19 vaccines reduce the chance of severe (symptomatic) illness but do not necessarily prevent infection and transmission.

Your argument that the vaccine stops only symptoms and not the infection is false.

If that was true, we would not see countries that practically eradicated the virus instantly after vaccination (like Israel). The virus would still be spreading and infecting people, and those unvaccinated would still be getting seriously ill.

> That being said, IMO there seems to be a growing public opinion that unvaccinated individuals are to blame for the increasing dominance of variants of concern (delta, gamma, etc).

The vaccines have proved to be effective preventing infection from the original strains.

If people have vaccinated then, it is likely we would have been done with the virus.

Now, there were not enough vaccine doses to vaccinate everybody in the world in time, so a strain developing in a poor country could still reach western world. So it may not have been possible to prevent delta completely.

Re:SARS-CoV-2 Gamma variant infected 16 fully Pfizer vaccina... by pigeonhole123 on Friday July 23, 2021 @06:40AM (#27929193)
Coparing Jordan and Israel, their new cases and death graphs look very similar. Israel has a 60% vaccination rate and Jordan has 20%. Where did you get this "instantly eradicated" idea from?
Re:SARS-CoV-2 Gamma variant infected 16 fully Pfizer vaccina... by effie on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:13AM (#27929422)
> countries that practically eradicated the virus instantly after vaccination (like Israel)

Source for this absurd claim?

Re:SARS-CoV-2 Gamma variant infected 16 fully Pfizer vaccina... by lmilcin on Friday July 23, 2021 @07:25AM (#27929479)
It is not an absurd claim. The statistics are available to everybody.

Israel implemented vaccinations efficiently and very quickly their infection rates dropped close to zero.

I live in Poland and same thing happened here.

Now the infection rates grow again because the current vaccination rate and vaccine themselves are not enough to protect.

Re:SARS-CoV-2 Gamma variant infected 16 fully Pfizer vaccina... by effie on Friday July 23, 2021 @08:49AM (#27930077)
It is an absurd claim. Just because reported rate of infections went down for a while, it does not mean that virus was eradicated.
Re:SARS-CoV-2 Gamma variant infected 16 fully Pfizer vaccina... by glandium on Friday July 23, 2021 @08:01AM (#27929725)
Infection rate is going up in Israel now.
Re:SARS-CoV-2 Gamma variant infected 16 fully Pfizer vaccina... by lmilcin on Friday July 23, 2021 @10:39AM (#27931180)
It is going up because new strain reached, for which the current vaccine and level is not enough protection.

I wrote that in the post you responded to, it seems you kinda forgot to read the last sentence.

Re:SARS-CoV-2 Gamma variant infected 16 fully Pfizer vaccina... by glandium on Friday July 23, 2021 @09:16PM (#27937572)
The sentence before that switched to Poland. It's fair to think the last sentence applied to Poland. After all, you were claiming eradication in Israel.