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Re:Ask HN: for senior positions is it advisable to list side... by PragmaticPulp on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:11AM (#27905746)
> Other than that, your side project will be seen as a hobby and not an achievement, and will be disregarded.

I think you’ve misunderstood the purpose of a side project for engineers. They’re supposed to be hobby projects that demonstrate the developer’s abilities as well as their commitment to following through on projects.

The OP’s projects are perfect for listing as completed side projects on a Senior Engineer resume. I wouldn’t hesitate to include them on a resume and describe the technologies used to build them.

You definitely don’t need to demonstrate significant traction or revenue for an engineering side project, nor do you need to write a book about it or build a significant community around it. These are ridiculously high standards for including a development side project on a senior engineer resume.

Frankly, if someone were to list “side projects” with significant revenue and a large community, I’m going to assume it’s a business and not a side project. We’d have to have a conversation about how much time and energy it’s going to take away from their employment, and how we can cleanly separate it from interfering with their job. Showing employers that you’re running a side business with significant revenue and therefore significant needs isn’t exactly a bonus when it comes to hiring someone. A fun side project that demonstrates their skills is a bonus, however.

Re:Ask HN: for senior positions is it advisable to list side... by giantg2 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:14AM (#27905784)
"I think you’ve misunderstood the purpose of a side project for engineers. They’re supposed to be hobby projects that demonstrate the developer’s abilities as well as their commitment to following through on projects."

Most managers at my company view side projects positively. One of the main reasons is that it shows the person has a creative mind and is at least a little passionate about technology/coding and learning on their own.

Re:Ask HN: for senior positions is it advisable to list side... by victorvscn on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:45AM (#27906164)
I'm not even an engineer but I have some HR training as a Psychologist and this resonates with me.
Re:Ask HN: for senior positions is it advisable to list side... by lumost on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:29AM (#27905972)
aye - I don't list inactive projects, but some hobbies/side projects provide a small sense of what kind of person you are like and what it will be to work with you.
Re:Ask HN: for senior positions is it advisable to list side... by giantg2 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:34AM (#27906030)
I wonder how I would fair in your evaluation of what I'm like if I have Android apps for ballistic energy calculations and a calculator for determining the alcohol needed for a party.
Re:Ask HN: for senior positions is it advisable to list side... by lumost on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:53AM (#27906276)
This isn't part of the evaluation, but it's a useful item to include for conversation starters. Whether these are useful conversation starters in a particular company is up to your judgement.

If you are interviewing for an Alcohol friendly company then the calculator might be a fun side project that shows you know Android development. Raytheon would probably love the ballistic energy calculator. If your interviewing with the quaker church then both items will probably have you rejected for culture fit.

Re:Ask HN: for senior positions is it advisable to list side... by giantg2 on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @10:03AM (#27906440)
Most people chuckle when I demo the alcohol calculator. They especially like the drunkenness slider to select how drunk your guest are expected to get. I make sure to give them the background that it was an idea that I started in college. The ballistic one is extremely simple, but that was my first ever Android app and I chose it for that reason (didn't do a regular calculator because there are sooo many of them out there already).

I might as well add the link. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blogspot.t...

Re:Ask HN: for senior positions is it advisable to list side... by incrudible on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @09:45AM (#27906166)
> I think you’ve misunderstood the purpose of a side project for engineers.

Perhaps, but you have to assume that many of those who are hiring will do exactly that. That's the meta-game.

There's a basket of opinions in this thread and they are all valid and informative, even if they are mistaken.

Re:Ask HN: for senior positions is it advisable to list side... by slumpt_ on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @10:00AM (#27906382)
Generally only reading your last few jobs and educational background. Side project is fine to see but it’s not going to be the differentiator. If you’re getting an interview you’re getting an interview.

Side projects help junior candidates without relevant job experience most.

Re:Ask HN: for senior positions is it advisable to list side... by sime2009 on Thursday July 22, 2021 @10:12AM (#27919091)
> I think you’ve misunderstood the purpose of a side project for engineers. They’re supposed to be hobby projects that demonstrate the developer’s abilities as well as their commitment to following through on projects.

I don't agree. A side-project might demonstrate those things, but most of the time, as an interviewer, I'm interested in a candidate's side-project because it shows curiosity and interest. It says something about their character.