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Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by samatman on Saturday July 17, 2021 @04:59PM (#27868827)
Man it is super weird that you put caffeine on that list.

I assume, because you did it, that you're one of those mutants who doesn't use it nor like it much. Good for you and all, but caffeine made the modern world, the majority of the population uses it every day, and industrial society wouldn't function without it.

It's also super-cheap even on a modest salary, and most workplaces give it away for free because of how necessary it is to production.

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by mcculley on Saturday July 17, 2021 @05:04PM (#27868858)
I am aware of Pollan's recently well-publicized assertion that caffeine made the modern world. I am unconvinced.

I quit caffeine a few years ago. I'm not an unusual mutant. I have the genes on markers rs4410790 and rs2470893 that indicate a typical reaction to caffeine. (https://enki.org/2017/08/13/quitting-caffeine/)

Most people experience a temporary increase in productivity until they build up a tolerance for caffeine. Thereafter, they are just paying and consuming to avoid headaches and reach the baseline.

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by balfirevic on Saturday July 17, 2021 @08:54PM (#27869983)
> Thereafter, they are just paying and consuming to avoid headaches and reach the baseline.

No, it is also for a great deal of enjoyment.

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by mcculley on Sunday July 18, 2021 @08:23AM (#27872328)
My experience consuming caffeine for 35 years was that the enjoyment required increasing consumptions. This is common for most. Maybe it is different for you.
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by tolbish on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:24PM (#27870112)
If that were true, everyone would be drinking decaf for the taste.
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by ntlk on Sunday July 18, 2021 @04:18AM (#27871518)
Decaf has a very different flavour profile.
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by diordiderot on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:34PM (#27869342)
What was your experience quitting like. I want to but am afraid
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by grecy on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:11PM (#27869523)
I'm not the person you replied to, but I can share my experience.

I used to drink at least 2 cups of coffee a day, and at least 3-4 of black tea.

over a year I slowly backed down to just a single coffee coffee in the morning.. then eventually switched to decafe coffee for that one. I had headaches for about a week, and I think I was irritable.

Recently I stopped even the decafe coffee, and now drink 1 or 2 decafe tea a day when it's cold.

I feel great, save money and don't miss the ups and downs of real coffee - I used to get the sweats, shakes, funny shallow breathing, etc. etc.

I also had no idea I was living life through a "fog", that I didn't even know about until a few months after I stopped. Life is much better now.

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by axiosgunnar on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:43PM (#27870195)
Literally just a few days of headache/foggy brain.

Then itβ€˜s magically gone.

Not even close to a full week.

Just do it.

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by mcculley on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:01PM (#27869476)
It was not bad. I wrote about it in the linked blog piece.

I also recommend /r/decaf where you can get support from others who have been and are going through decaffeinating.

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by blindmute on Sunday July 18, 2021 @10:39AM (#27873319)
All studies confirm that caffeine consumed regularly does not improve alertness or anything else above baseline. After a tolerance is built, daily caffeine only returns the user to baseline performance, that they have fallen under due to withdrawal. If you use caffeine for more than about 2 or 3 days in a row, it stops doing anything useful. If everyone quit caffeine immediately, there would be a couple weeks of awful productivity, and then everything would go back to normal.