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Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by jdc on Friday July 16, 2021 @12:19AM (#27853021)
He died under suspicious circumstances before he could testify against powerful people against whom he likely had devastatingly compromising information.
Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by speeder on Friday July 16, 2021 @12:38AM (#27853086)
There is also the thing with the judge that judged his first case, claiming he HAD to give Epstein a deal, because he was "warned" that Epstein "belonged" to intelligence.
Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by belltaco on Friday July 16, 2021 @12:56AM (#27853147)
It was the prosecutor, not a judge. He later became the Labor secretary in Trump's cabinet.
Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by economusty on Friday July 16, 2021 @02:06AM (#27853443)
I thought the original judge was removed at the last minute and replaced with a judge willing to make that call?
Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by tablespoon on Friday July 16, 2021 @01:23AM (#27853258)
> He died under suspicious circumstances before he could testify against powerful people against whom he likely had devastatingly compromising information.

You're speaking like that's almost certainty, which is little more than speculation.

The more reasonable assumption is that he knew he was ruined, his life was essentially over, and became suicidal because of his lack of a future. If he had real dirt on anyone, it's quite possible that they were just other forgettable rich dudes like himself with no significant power or influence.

Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by atatatat on Friday July 16, 2021 @08:51AM (#27855694)
> just other forgettable rich dudes

Bells didn't start going off until this part of your comment.

No.

Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by tablespoon on Friday July 16, 2021 @12:20PM (#27857886)
> Bells didn't start going off until this part of your comment.

How so? Jeffrey Epstein was rich, but that was about it. What kind of power or importance did he have? AFAIK, he only got rich by leeching off other even richer dudes. I'm sure most of his friends were the same. Not exactly the kind of people who I think would resort to murder (of a guy in solitary in a maximum security prison), or could pull it off and leave barely a trace if they tried.

Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by timcambrant on Friday July 16, 2021 @02:22PM (#27859431)
”Maximum security prison” - which is rather the regular security jail where he had been taken off suicide watch, and whose camera system, which was covering his corridor, was out of order. Plus the guards didn’t really seem to pay much attention.
Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by mrguyorama on Friday July 16, 2021 @05:04PM (#27861207)
>been taken off suicide watch, and whose camera system, which was covering his corridor, was out of order. Plus the guards didn’t really seem to pay much attention.

The problem is that those are way more common in american prisons than you would hope. Meaning we can't really know whether epstein was executed or just allowed to die by an apathetic and malevolent prison system.

That doesn't excuse the absolute lack of effort by Barr and Garland to try to find anything out.

Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by tablespoon on Friday July 16, 2021 @04:31PM (#27860878)
> ”Maximum security prison” - which is rather the regular security jail

IIRC, he was in a SHU, which is closer to the former than the latter.

> where he had been taken off suicide watch, and whose camera system, which was covering his corridor, was out of order. Plus the guards didn’t really seem to pay much attention.

That's definitely conspiracy theory fodder, but little more than that.

Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by void_mint on Saturday July 17, 2021 @02:27PM (#27867711)
> That's definitely conspiracy theory fodder, but little more than that.

A common trend in this thread seems to be labeling speculation as "conspiracy theory", seemingly to get out of having to justify one form of speculation is more valid than another.

Why are statements-of-fact "conspiracy theory fodder"?

Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by tablespoon on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:39PM (#27870172)
> Why are statements-of-fact "conspiracy theory fodder"?

Conspiracy theory fodder are facts that offer no evidence of a conspiracy, but that the conspiracy-prone can't help but use as springboards for baseless speculation about one.

Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by void_mint on Sunday July 18, 2021 @01:16AM (#27870917)
Ah but isn't that the interesting part. A person that dismisses an idea as a "conspiracy theory" is inclined to dismiss evidence too, no?
Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by atatatat on Friday July 16, 2021 @03:04PM (#27859953)
You may have missed the various bits of the story that make it apparent that he was an intelligence asset, and connected to others.
Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by machinehermiter on Friday July 16, 2021 @05:03PM (#27861191)
The problem with the conspiracy theory is Ghislaine Maxwell would have met the same fate. It makes no sense Epstein gets wacked in jail but Maxwell outside of jail does not.
Re:Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy? by unavoidable on Friday July 16, 2021 @06:07PM (#27861778)
Does it make no sense? She hasn't testified yet.