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Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by ramesh31 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @03:24PM (#27837258)
It fills me with a deep sorrow knowing that I will never be able to visit Iran as an American. I don't know if it's just the "forbidden fruit" aspect of it or not, but it's my number one bucket list destination.
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by amir734jj on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @11:36PM (#27841138)
I am an Iranian-American (dual citizen) and I suggest you to NOT visit Iran. You may be subjected to arbitrary arrests.

P.S. I haven't visited Iran since high school over 12 years ago and I miss my friends and family there so much.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by 2dvisio on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @05:30PM (#27838690)
Lots of people from USA are visiting Iran. We travel to Shiraz regularly and even during the previous presidency we have witnessed planes full of Americans travelling there. It was quite hopeful for all as it demonstrated USA is not a narrow minded bunch… quite the opposite!
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by anonAndOn on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @06:05PM (#27839015)
>planes full of Americans travelling there

Unlike the rest of the world, Americans can only visit with organized tours.[0]

[0]Unless you've got some Persian relatives you're visiting.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by OJFord on Thursday July 15, 2021 @11:09AM (#27845645)
Is that an Iranian sanction on the USA, or US law (hoping to make it easier to spot unwanted behaviour or something)?
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by anonAndOn on Thursday July 15, 2021 @01:33PM (#27847380)
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by emmelaich on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @08:11PM (#27840049)
I want to visit too and I know why - the history and culture.

Unfortunately like many middle-east countries the government is not representative of the people.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by enriquto on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @04:40PM (#27838141)
don't say never. Until forty years ago you could have visited the country without problem. Maybe in a few years you will be able to, again. International politics is cruel, unpredictable and complex, but also fast paced. You can also acquire a different nationality and travel under your new passport.
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by werber on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @03:27PM (#27837307)
I'm not sure what your situation is but I know Americans that have gone through an intermediate country
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by ramesh31 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @03:30PM (#27837341)
>I'm not sure what your situation is but I know Americans that have gone through an intermediate country

It's possible, sure. But the risk of arbitrary detention would make it impossible to enjoy. The state department currently lists Iran as "Level 4: Do not travel", and suggests you have a will in order if you do [0]. There was a brief moment towards the end of the Obama era where it seemed things may have been thawing, but with the Soleimani assassination I don't have much hope for the future in that regard.

[0] https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/...

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by brudgers on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @04:30PM (#27838049)
You should have a will even if you stay home. And a living will in case you are vegetating and the plug needs to be pulled.

Most people in Iran know there are a bunch of assholes running things there just like there are here. Daily life for most people there consists mostly of mundane things like colored pencils.

Travel requires treating irrational fears as irrational. If you want to go, you can find a way. Your life will be different afterwards because that's what any travel does.

The ways in which people change from travel is why Americans have been banned from Cuba for sixty years and Iran for forty.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by siva7 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @03:51PM (#27837602)
iran - and many other countries in the world - could take you happily as a hostage if your government is considered an enemy.
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by parhamn on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @04:01PM (#27837724)
Statistically speaking insanely improbable. ~5m people and thousands of Americans visit Iran every year. Unless you're a anti-govt journalist or intelligence related you have nothing to worry about.

N.B. the argument that Iran will falsely label you a 'spy' feels weak to me given the order of magnitude of such detentions in recent history is in the tens. It would be equally improbably that most of these detentions were false positives as plenty of foreign intelligence operations happen in any country. Especially given the amount of foreign-intelligence related sabotage in recent Iranian history.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by ranicki on Thursday July 15, 2021 @03:49PM (#27849258)
There's this person: https://behdadesfahbod.medium.com/if-you-read-one-thing-from...

Extremely respected engineer both in Iran and America, ran tech initiatives for youths in Iran, a key figure in international text rendering. No political activity, but he got arrested and coerced anyway because the Iranian government wanted to force him to become a spy.

He managed to escape, but it ruined his life and career.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by siva7 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @04:23PM (#27837954)
of those visitors there will hardly be many at which your country is basically at war which is the case for americans. i can freely travel to iran but i wouldn't recommend it to an american.
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by IG_Semmelweiss on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @08:42PM (#27840249)
I think your fear is misguided.

You may never see Iran...but not because you are an American. Instead, it is because Iran is a ticking time bomb.

Once the country opens back up, and it will open back up - you have to question whether there will be anything left to see.

Civil war is a nasty thing. See: Syria.

I recommend you visit now before its too late.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by kumarvvr on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @10:06PM (#27840739)
> Iran is a ticking time bomb

I don't think so. Sure, its a dictatorship and flawed in many ways, but that doesn't mean the people are not happy.

Society will bear some amount of constant pressure, to a certain degree.

If that pressure progresses into a puncture, society will rupture.

So far, Iran doesn't seem to be in that situation.

Iran has been in its current state since 1979. That is 40 whole years. And we have not seen any major shifts in their society.

It looks stronger than ever, now that Iraq and Afghanistan (thanks to the trigger happy policy of America) are in the dumps, Iran is a strong and critical player.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by pm90 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @09:27PM (#27840520)
Why is it certain that opening up Iran would lead to Civil war?

When I read your first paragraph I assumed you were referring to these mom and pop kinda shops going out of business once the economy develops, replacing them with cookie cutter malls or online retail.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by hn_go_brrrrr on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @11:54PM (#27841224)
I believe he's saying the opposite -- it will open back up after the civil war.
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by IG_Semmelweiss on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @11:05PM (#27841000)
sorry i may not have expressed my thoughts correctly.

Repression tends to lead to explosive results in the shape of civil war. See arab spring, syria, etc.

I don't think it has much to business (insofar tourism is concerned), but more about tourist sites being potentially destroyed.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by rmason on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @05:00PM (#27838388)
I feel the same way about Cuba. My Uncle worked there as a banker and almost my entire family visited him there at one time or another.

I asked him once when it opened up again why he hadn't gone back. He said the trips are forced tours and that he wouldn't be free to get a car and revisit the haunts of his youth.

I made up my mind that I wouldn't visit Cuba until the communists were gone. I was pretty confident after Castro the government would fall. Now I am not so sure.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @05:20PM (#27838586)
Direct flights to Cuba have been available since 2016. You can go whenever you want minus any pending revolution.
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by selimthegrim on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @07:40PM (#27839830)
Half of Miami seems to be pretty sure atm.
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by hellbannedguy on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @05:06PM (#27838435)
I wouldn't be suprised if the military rebelled within a few days.
Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by jacquesm on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @03:54PM (#27837645)
So much for freedom, right? After all, the US has a very loud voice on all things freedom related but when it comes to the rights of its own citizens to do as they please the degree of freedom appears to be lower than that of many states that have lesser profile in the freedom department. Countries should not limit their citizens freedoms on the basis of politics, that's no different than the various dictatorships that want to keep their people in (and the foreigners out), it's just a matter of degree.

Whether it is safe - or wise - to do so is another matter.

Re:Mr. Rafieh’s Tehran Pencil Shop by whatshisface on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @04:17PM (#27837883)
US citizens are allowed to go to Iran. The state department has issued a travel advisory, but it was issued on the basis of kidnappings and arbitrary arrests of U.S. citizens.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/...