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Re:The worst volume control UI in the world (2017) by bouke on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @01:52AM (#27830083)
To add insult, the notifications are a separate window on macOS. So when you use cmd+tab to switch _to_ Teams, you might end up in that notifications window. Even when there are no Teams notifications, that window remains. This is very painful when in full-screen mode, as cmd-tabbing to Teams simply doesn’t work.

I’m on the beta where you can switch to native notifications, but they’ve only implemented that (poorly) for chat notifications. Calls still use their own notifications. Poorly you ask? Well the notification doesn’t show the sender when posting in a group channel; it uses the group name as the notification title.

Re:The worst volume control UI in the world (2017) by MaanuAir on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @06:31AM (#27831532)
If you’re on a 2nd space in macOS, typing CMD-TAB to switch to the Teams window in 1st space will NOT display Teams and will keep you in 2nd space.

Breaking the native CMD-TAB shortcut is breathtaking…

(Workaround: switch to any other app in 1st space first, then switch to Teams…)

Re:The worst volume control UI in the world (2017) by MaanuAir on Thursday July 15, 2021 @09:30AM (#27844428)
Well another workaround actually: CMD-TAB until focus is on Teams, DOWN, DOWN, RETURN does the trick as well. But, how embarassing...
Re:The worst volume control UI in the world (2017) by lillesvin on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @06:06AM (#27831373)
They're registered as a separate window on Windows too. When I alt-tab, I frequently end up in the notification window.

My main question is, why are people still doing desktop apps in JS? (Yes, I know, cross-platform... There are other ways to do that.) They always end up breaking with the native UI conventions on the host OS, and they're stupidly resource hungry.

Re:The worst volume control UI in the world (2017) by johnwalkr on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @06:50AM (#27831654)
Could be worse. In outlook for Mac, there are native notifications but the only button on them is “delete.” I thought it was dismiss for quite some time.

And when you use command-tab to delete search terms, i what it actually does is delete the highlighted email.

Re:The worst volume control UI in the world (2017) by bouke on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @07:49AM (#27832039)
Microsoft ignoring default shortcuts or even assigning different behaviour in their various macOS apps is driving me insane. On Teams one cannot even discover shortcuts from the menubar as the menubar doesn’t contain any actions beside undo/redo.

Electron must be the new embrace extend extinguish of macOS.

Re:The worst volume control UI in the world (2017) by dkdbejwi383 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @02:25AM (#27830268)
It makes me wonder how they manage to get it so wrong. Is there nobody at Microsoft who uses teams that they can ask for UX feedback? Does all the user feedback they collect go straight to the bin?
Re:The worst volume control UI in the world (2017) by r00fus on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @02:48AM (#27830369)
It's a competition among the sub-groups to see who can inflict the most damage...