Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

Re:Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for hea... by jacquesm on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @03:38PM (#27825279)

Right, well let's just say that coincidentally I had a viral infection that has the exact same symptoms as COVID, has the same long term effects as are reported in many cases of COVID and which coincidentally happened to be timed to match the first wave of that particular pandemic, but according to you it wasn't COVID when it wasn't confirmed as such with a test.

Consider the alternative: you would have to come up with some kind of viral agent that did the same thing but wasn't COVID.

Which to me seems to be a far more outrageous claim than the one that I was simply one of many. The test does not make the disease, it is merely positive confirmation, but I've yet to hear of some surprise viral disease that ran in parallel to this, isn't COVID but matches the symptoms so well.

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Re:Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for hea... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @05:28PM (#27826532)

> let's just say that coincidentally I had a viral infection that has the exact same symptoms as COVID, has the same long term effects as are reported in many cases of COVID and which coincidentally happened to be timed to match the first wave of that particular pandemic

That happened to a lot of people. The first wave in March wasn't very big compared to later months.

You mentioned the flu season didn't happen in a different post, but that was much later, as was most masking.

> Which to me seems to be a far more outrageous claim than the one that I was simply one of many.

That's a terrible way to analyze this. You were "one of many" either way.

> but I've yet to hear of some surprise viral disease that ran in parallel to this, isn't COVID but matches the symptoms so well.

The symptoms aren't all that unique for a severe illness that messes up your lungs. There's no 'surprise' involved in other possible causes.

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Re:Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for hea... by fragmede on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @07:43PM (#27827579)

Extreme fatigue for months after is not neatly explainable. Myalgic Encehalomyelitis/CFS is similar, but when other symptoms are included (weird skin rash, heart palpations, smell issues, GI trouble), the simpler explanation is Covid. A deeper reading on long Covid symptoms may prove informational as the cluster of symptoms is fairly unique and unexplainable.

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Re:Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for hea... by clairity on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @03:59PM (#27825554)

that’s being overly invested in the idea that it’s covid rather than realizing that infections of all kinds have long-lasting effects. individually and societally, that leads to a distortion of attention and resources to the wrong things. i.e., partial idiocy, the worst kind, and unfortunately rampant.

there is a real opportunity now for medical science to look comparatively at infectious diseases and attack them systematically and cohesively rather than myopically. hopefully we don’t squander that.

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Re:Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for hea... by jacquesm on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @01:20PM (#27835598)

Hopefully we don't squander basic respect for our fellow human beings either. Not everything is a science experiment or a thesis. Given that the number of people that died from COVID based on excess mortality where I live is approximately 50% higher than the official figures the chances of a bunch of people having unconfirmed COVID are rather high.

So unless you are going to go out on a limb to suggest a better alternative I suggest you leave well alone.

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Re:Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for hea... by saalweachter on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @03:44PM (#27825366)

I mean, I'm not even sure I would bother with a T-cell test in your case. The only meaningful difference in your future life would be to have the results to give people on the internet, which doesn't seem worth getting two tubes of blood drawn.

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Re:Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for hea... by jacquesm on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @03:48PM (#27825434)

Precisely. If there is a benefit to me I'll get tested. Even the medic I talked to was pretty clear: don't bother, save the test for someone who really needs it. Which at that time could have saved a life for someone that needed to have an operation and required a COVID test prior to admission.

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