U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops

Re:U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops by neom on Monday July 12, 2021 @11:29AM (#27811268)

Not to take away from what you're saying, I agree. I presume I'm in the minority of Canadians, but when the current government announced that new combustion vehicles would be banned in 2035, the only thing I could think is I need to vote for the green party. New sale combustion vehicles should be banned by ~2025, even if that means setting up crown corporations with tax dollars to deal with the infrastructure requirements. By 2035, it should be illegal drive one on public roads, period. At this point, I will only vote for people with a fully environment first platform, even at the expense of "bad" fiscal/economic policy for the country.

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Re:U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops by zamalek on Monday July 12, 2021 @12:14PM (#27811795)

That's fantastic, and there needs to be more people like you. The problem I'm seeing is:

> China isn't doing anything, so why should we?

If the entire human race comes to an end, the last two gravestones will read: "the guy in the other grave is to blame."

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Re:U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops by neom on Monday July 12, 2021 @12:30PM (#27812006)

Yes, it's infuriating isn't it? And it's not even true.

https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-china-the-main-climate-c...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/01/16/next-chin...

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2020/10/01/worlds-largest-solar-...

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Re:U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops by zamalek on Monday July 12, 2021 @01:02PM (#27812448)

> World’s largest solar plant goes online in China

And the irony is that such a power plant is an extreme strategic and economic resource. During wartime you no longer have to worry about how to import ever dwindling fossil fuels. During peace time, you have limitless negotiation power.

Majority renewable energy would likely push a country into a realm that is far beyond a superpower. And China seems to have caught on to this - they have probably realized how much money they are burning while securing coal reserves around the world (e.g. Zimbabwe).

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Re:U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops by alexose on Monday July 12, 2021 @12:05PM (#27811679)

I'm with you. Climate is the only issue I care about anymore. My home is Southwest Oregon, so it's just a strategic choice.

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Re:U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops by imtringued on Monday July 12, 2021 @12:06PM (#27811698)

>I will only vote for people with a fully environment first platform, even at the expense of "bad" fiscal/economic policy for the country.

For developed countries that have high productivity growth, falling demand as the population ages and low inflation you actually have to come up with random ideas to keep the population employed. It doesn't even matter what you do. You could let them dig holes and fill them. What's important is that the money goes to people who spend it.

You know. Instead of letting the government be the investor of last resort, why not just introduce a carbon tax and carbon tariff and just let the private sector do all the investments? It would revitalize the economy far more than a bunch of trump style tax cuts.

Green investments for climate change? Fuck that, let's save capitalism with green investments!

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Re:U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops by TheBill on Monday July 12, 2021 @12:29PM (#27811984)

Have fun pitching your fellow Canadians on a massive regression in standard of living that hits your poor & first nations communities hardest while becoming a economic vassal state to the CCP, who literally does not give a fuck.

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Re:U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops by arbitrary_name on Monday July 12, 2021 @01:01PM (#27812434)

That is not the option in front of us as voters, or as a nation.

The poor and first nations communities have not been well served by the current paradigm, and in fact the best outcome for them is generally left leaning policy that actually honors seniority of water rights, enforcement of environmental laws, and policies that support critical first nations fisheries and other resources (stop damming salmon runs, displacing the tribes and selling the water and power to large corporate farmers would be a great start).

It is the political right that has largely trampled the poor and first nations into the dust over the past decades, on both sides of that border.

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Re:U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops by Cycl0ps on Monday July 12, 2021 @01:02PM (#27812447)

No one's saying it will be fun. They're saying it needs to be done

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Re:U.S. Pacific Northwest heat wave bakes wheat, fruit crops by Pokepokalypse on Monday July 12, 2021 @01:46PM (#27812992)

wait until climate-induced mass famine hits them. Literally no one is going to give a shit about languages, cultures, or nations when hundreds of millions are dying of starvation.

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