> Just don’t have kids. Everything else is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

Developed countries already are below reproduction rates. My country of birth is nearly at the very bottom.

You're sort of preaching to the choir here.

Most previous environmental issues were somehow, if sloppily, fixed over time. Humans are not as thick as you insinuate. Some of them, yes, but the awareness of climate issues is already fairly widespread in most developed countries and is slowly seeping into other parts of the world as well.

I firmly believe that we will be able to sequester carbon economically one day. I am not able to say when, of course. But there are a lot of ways to sequester carbon already, even though expensive ones, and I don't see why they should stay expensive forever. Humans are pretty good in applied chemistry and always come with ways to do things cheaper.

And carbon sequestration isn't something that would require consent of the entire world. Even five or six countries working together could pull it off.

I fear catastrophe but at the same time the human species has been reduced to near extinction before.

We have to innovate and embrace technology otherwise other humans will do it and make our bloodlines extinct. It just sucks that doing so carries so much tail end risk and future generations have to settle that debt.

It’s so hard to predict the future though. What if what we really need is more humans to increase the probability of solving the problems that are causing the climate to change.

From a pure logic point of view you'd better kill somebody who thinks the more people the better. But people are generally not good with logic especially when their beliefs are questioned.

People are the problem.

People promoting to remove people as solution aren't understanding how ecosystems work.

This is the kind of reductio ad absurdum nonsense I was hoping to avoid.

>Just don't have ...

"Idiocracy"(2006) scenario :-)

Western people already reducing their numbers. But there are other civilizations on this planet who's not going to reduce birth numbers and they'll quickly replace those who don't have kids. That's kind of social evolution. And any effective means to force other countries to reduce their birth rate are unacceptable in current morale.

Exactly. I would be okay with having only one child if everyone else did the same globally. But there's no point whatsoever if my unborn children will be just replaced by migrants from some society/culture where people have a lot of children, making room for more births in their country of origin.

> Western people already reducing their numbers

It’s a good start. Let’s keep it up!