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Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by stavros on Sunday July 11, 2021 @05:39AM (#27799562)
> The Internet never delivered on its promise.

The internet is what brought you piracy.

Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by speeder on Sunday July 11, 2021 @10:58AM (#27801340)
Where I live piracy is people on the street selling media with pirated content (currently, DVD-R and all... but there was a time when it was diskette or even tape too).

Sometimes they sell it for MORE than the original, so why people buy the pirated one?

Because the pirated one is often:

  easier to pay (just hand over the cash instead of international wire).
  better support (often the piracy dealers double as tech support!)
  better patches (often pirated content is patched  with fan patches, DRM removal, and whatnot)
  better translation (often pirated content include fan translation).
Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by hulitu on Sunday July 11, 2021 @06:25AM (#27799755)
> The internet is what brought you piracy.

Piracy was brought by microsoft and MPAA. Microsoft had a lot to win and they used piracy to consolidate market share. They never went after people except in some rare cases for publicity. MPAA made sure that you cannot buy movies. In eastern europe they did not even had distributors but they were screaming bloody murder.

Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by elondaits on Sunday July 11, 2021 @09:38AM (#27800685)
Pfffff!! In Argentina you could go to brick and mortar computer stores with your box of blank floppies and ask them to copy whatever game you wanted from a long dot-matrix printed list in a binder.

Years later, with CD writers, there was a website called “Ed Sullivan and his Cambodian slaves” [sic] with a long list of movies and TV shows you could have delivered home in a couple of days. Or just stroll to the park in the center of town where several stalls offered copies of all types of computer software, MP3 collections, games, movies, etc.

… There were also guys on trains, carrying a portable CD player, speakers and a battery, who sold music and movies.

Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by UI_at_80x24 on Sunday July 11, 2021 @05:59AM (#27799651)
>> The Internet never delivered on its promise.

>The internet is what brought you piracy.

The BBS's I visited in 1986 might disagree with you.

Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by Symbiote on Sunday July 11, 2021 @06:01AM (#27799657)
The guy with a suitcase of tapes would also disagree, but the Internet enabled a huge increase in scale.
Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by nine_k on Sunday July 11, 2021 @06:06AM (#27799679)
While I see what you mean, a BBS was an inherently local thing, unless you fancied paying long-distance fees even if a distant BBS would accept LD calls at all. That might be acceptable for important texts and other very compact formats (small pictures, MIDI tracks), but for pirating music, let alone video, it was out of question.
Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by zorked on Sunday July 11, 2021 @10:33AM (#27801127)
The problem there is just technological: the problem with movies and video was the unavailability of good enough codecs/large enough media+bandwidth. Otherwise BBS would have been a hell of a party for those too.

For software my local BBSs, very very far from any rich country, somehow managed to get every major software release a few days before launch day. Yes, before. It was all one huge global network already, just a bit asynchronous.

Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by dariosalvi78 on Sunday July 11, 2021 @07:27AM (#27800000)
people selling pirate movies and music on the street (pretty common in Italy at least) may disagree
Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by johnchristopher on Sunday July 11, 2021 @06:33AM (#27799796)
The BBB's from 1986 didn't bring piracy to this person in the 2000's. Internet did.
Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by isbvhodnvemrwvn on Sunday July 11, 2021 @09:12AM (#27800511)
Not quite, CD Projekt (the witcher company) is named like this because they were selling pirated CDs in Warsaw.
Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by Xelbair on Sunday July 11, 2021 @09:56AM (#27800824)
the naivete.

Piracy was widespread over here before internet was a thing.

Copied audio tapes(prior to cassettes!), or movies etc.

Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by iso1210 on Sunday July 11, 2021 @11:56AM (#27801855)
My first 'piracy' would have been the copy of windows + office that my dad had at work and brought home to install on the home computer, well before I'd ever heard of the internet.
Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by _0ffh on Sunday July 11, 2021 @07:42AM (#27800054)
Not quite, but it's sure vastly more efficient than swapping floppy disks.