Yes we should stop chastising people like that. You have long hair, you use more water, shampoo and drying. You drink coffee how many wh for that cup and its content. We could always find something in others where they consume more. My neighbors keep all their lights on almost all the time in every room. The other one has AC on all day to full power even when it is cooler outside... So complaining that someone uses a 50w/70w device for their hobby... meh . However I still believe we and the manufacturers should work to reduce idle power and consumption in general.

Oh I never felt chastised… before…

I mean I agree with not wasting energy of course, but what we’re talking about here is really nothing compared to driving a car or making a couple of pots of tea a day, for example. I refuse to feel chastised!

> My neighbors keep all their lights on almost all the time in every room

Almost all the lights in my house are leds, even if I did this the cost would be negligible.

Yeah I think this is a thing of the old days, my father in law is also always on top of light usage. Once I calculated what a 3W led cost him if he let it run the whole year (about 6€) to forget it once in a while is really no reason to get cranky. Leaving a couple of 60W incandescent bulbs on for longer periods can increase a bill indeed, but with leds it’s really not worth being know as the guy that whines about the lights for, IMO.

I don’t really think it’s about cost for these people. There’s something about a needlessly glowing lightbulb that is just offensive to them.

Well, I agree that lights should just be turned off when not needed, it also kills their lifespan. But you don't have to be a nasty person about it :)

> but it also runs ... MineCraft servers

At least you have your priorities straight :P !

> (~0.20 eur/kWH)

Are such high electricity prices common in Europe? That's higher than it is in 49 of the 50 US states (assuming 0.20 EUR = 0.24 USD, and with Hawaii being the exception).

Electricity in the EU is really really expensive. That person is actually paying below average rates.

That's cheaper than California!

0.30 Euro per kW/h in Germany

I never thought about it, as far as I know it’s been stable like this for years now… Gas is getting more and more expensive though.

In Western Europe at least this is quite common. Mostly because politicians have discovered this as a great tax resource.

I assume it varies a lot by region. 0.12 EUR/kWh for me (Finland, inc. transmission and tax).