Re:Apple's “iCloud Private Relay” broke risk based authentic...
by dlivingston on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @04:34PM
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Maybe I’m missing something, but doesn’t your edge case validate my argument?
In other words, your comment reads as “if everyone stops visiting Etsy, then they will make $0”, which…yeah. Makes sense to me.
Re:Apple's “iCloud Private Relay” broke risk based authentic...
by danudey on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @07:06PM
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More like "if I can choose arbitrary values for my variables I can make the equation say whatever I want, regardless of what the real values should be".
Re:Apple's “iCloud Private Relay” broke risk based authentic...
by tmp538394722 on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @08:18PM
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This was a better comment than your original sarcastic comment - the internet’s got enough vitriol, please don’t add to it.
Re:Apple's “iCloud Private Relay” broke risk based authentic...
by joshmanders on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @07:56PM
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Except this formula is exactly how businesses determine what operating systems, browsers, and devices they support are.
They plug the numbers into the formula and see "If we block IE11 users from being able to use the site, we lose 1% of our traffic, which equates to X dollars. Is that a substantial amount? If so, we support IE11, if not, IE11 support goes out the door."
So yeah, you can plug in the numbers you did and try to negate his argument, but that doesn't make his argument wrong. Just means you understand the argument but fail to accept it.
Re:Apple's “iCloud Private Relay” broke risk based authentic...
by Dylan16807 on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @08:23PM
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1. It's weird that the values you pick lead to an example scenario where the person you're disagreeing with is even more right.
2. The point of the math was to show that it's a big deal for basically any reasonable values. It doesn't depend on the exact numbers.
Let's say that ~100% of Etsy.com views are through Safari. Of those, 100% have iCloud+.
Let's say they did this and 0% of people visit the site through chrome.
That's 100% less revenue for them. Pretty amazing that this one feature could completely kill Etsy's revenue stream.
(For what it's worth, I agree with you that Etsy is not going to tell Safari users to pound sand, but your arbitrary numbers don't make an actual point unless they're based in facts and figures.)