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Re:The Programmer's Brain by woleium on Monday July 05, 2021 @08:01PM (#27742981)
are Manning books any better these days? They always used to rush the most awful poorly edited and planned content to market to be the first ones with a book on $NewTechnology
Re:The Programmer's Brain by abainbridge on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @04:06AM (#27745401)
I read the first few pages. It was riddled with problems.

1. Section 1.1 shows an APL program "1 2 2 2 2 2 ⊤ n" and says, "The confusion here lies in the fact that you might not know what ⊤ means.". Nope. The confusion is that I don't know what any of the symbols do or how an APL program is structured. I expect this is the case for most readers.

2. There are 3 examples here. The discussions of the examples are not next to the examples. It is all jumbled up and hard to read.

3. The Java example spells main as mian.

4. Section 2 says, "programmers write a lot more code than they read". That is incorrect. For example, normally I read several of the solutions on Stackoverflow before I decide which one to copy and paste :-)

Re:The Programmer's Brain by dodecaphonic on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @06:07AM (#27746248)
The "mian" thing is not an error. It's there to make a point about how the brain interprets code, depending on your familiarity with the language and problem. She explains it not much later on.
Re:The Programmer's Brain by booleandilemma on Monday July 05, 2021 @08:06PM (#27743015)
I’ve always liked Manning…the one I can’t stand is Packt…
Re:The Programmer's Brain by tomrod on Monday July 05, 2021 @08:25PM (#27743119)
I have purchased exactly two Packt books.

One was actually fantastic quality -- one of the best ML/Python programming books I've come across.

The other was for some specialty GIS work, and it was tremendously terrible quality but the only source available.

Re:The Programmer's Brain by codetrotter on Monday July 05, 2021 @08:29PM (#27743140)
I used to check on the Packt page where they gave a book away for free daily a few years ago.

Out of all of the books most of them were trash. There was a couple of really good ones in there. But all-over my clear impression from the books was that Packt has basically no lower bar whatsoever on quality.

Re:The Programmer's Brain by dhosek on Monday July 05, 2021 @10:28PM (#27743692)
I picked up all the Rust books when I decided to learn Rust a few months back. Fortunately, two were from the library (the Rust book and the Apress one), while the other I already had thanks to a Humble Bundle deal (the O'Reilly one). The Rust Programming Book is excellent (and also available freely online/via rustup docs --book, but I like to read on paper when I can). The O'Reilly one is a little out of date, but unsurprisingly comprehensive and answers some questions that were of interest to me (like that a match expression turns into a jump table automatically if the data an be appropriately indexed, e.g., if you're matching on a u8) and covers macros which the book does not. The Apress book, on the other hand, is a hot mess and often actively wrong (and important things like the distinction between String, str, OsString and OsStr are simply ignored). If I wasn't just blindly requesting stuff via my library's online catalog, I would have skipped it because I've never seen a good Apress book.

(edited to say Apress and not Packt. I'd forgotten which crappy publisher I was dealing with.)

Re:The Programmer's Brain by darkfirefly on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:43AM (#27744293)
I believe they recently updated the O'Reilly Rust book with a new edition so it's not out of date anymore.
Re:The Programmer's Brain by tomrod on Monday July 05, 2021 @08:34PM (#27743164)
Agreed.

There are very few cases where I would use Packt, and only after personal recommendations.

Re:The Programmer's Brain by jdhendrickson on Monday July 05, 2021 @10:21PM (#27743650)
Please feel free to share the title of the good book!
Re:The Programmer's Brain by tomrod on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @08:13AM (#27760199)
Sure! I don't intend to shill, so, here is something useful: a link to his github repo for the book.

https://github.com/rasbt/python-machine-learning-book-3rd-ed...

Re:The Programmer's Brain by haskellandchill on Monday July 05, 2021 @08:22PM (#27743097)
Look at the table of contents for this book and make your judgement. I say no.
Re:The Programmer's Brain by lolc on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @05:43AM (#27746072)
Yeah, Manning books have generally been in the "better than nothing" category for me. Don't know about this book though, it might be an exception.
Re:The Programmer's Brain by 7thaccount on Monday July 05, 2021 @10:38PM (#27743747)
That hasn't been my experience and I own quite a few of their books.
Re:The Programmer's Brain by Sr_developer on Monday July 05, 2021 @08:19PM (#27743083)
I was to comment the same the other day , but the post was about some book the author was promoting so I didnt want to be a party popper but the book was totally mediocre.

It seems to me the inevitable destiny of all "tech" press, start with strong titles and devolve into crap, or to be fairer a crap-shoot.

So now you have:

ALWAYS HAVE BEEN "CRAP" = Packt and Apress

STARTED OK,GOOD NOW MOSTLY CRAP = Pragmatic, Manning, No Starch

STILL OK,GOOD = O'Reilly, CUP

Re:The Programmer's Brain by petercooper on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @09:25AM (#27748185)
Where's the No Starch judgment coming from? While they seem to have started veering into more mainstream/maker-y type stuff over the years, I've never had a single bad book off of them, and in terms of actual physical quality I'm not sure there's any publisher that's better.
Re:The Programmer's Brain by Sr_developer on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @10:25AM (#27749048)
Check out the last titles, I am barely exaggerating with these fictitious ones to not crap on actual ones:

- How to make palindromes with python

- A CSS lexicon,900 terms defined (120 pages)

- The buttons of a PS5 controller

Re:The Programmer's Brain by 7thaccount on Monday July 05, 2021 @10:41PM (#27743761)
I've had mixed results with Packt and Apress (quite a few typos in Packt). Pragmatic, Manning, and No Starch have all been pretty good, as has O'Reilly.