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Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by lionkor on Friday July 02, 2021 @04:51AM (#27709238)
I'm probably just being cynical, but those graphs and diagrams scream of a lack of "meat" to what they're saying. Except for the first graphic, they are all just products of a marketing brain, as far as I can tell.

Showing the old engine as a graph that plummets, and the new one as one that doesnt, or the one that plots "frustration" against "features & complexity", is just utterly meaningless to me. Maybe this appeals to the small part of the community that gets excited for quirky and cool posts by big corps, but I only see about 5 paragraphs of info here.

Basically RenderingNG will more reliable and better and better and more reliable, and thats neat, I just wish they didnt waste so much of the reader's time.

Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by roca on Friday July 02, 2021 @06:40AM (#27709896)
I think the Chrome team has done a lot of good work here, but you're right about the graphs. What units does the "frustration" axis use, anyway?
Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by krylon on Friday July 02, 2021 @07:25AM (#27710112)
Decibel, as in the volume at which users yell at their display. ;-)
Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by ww520 on Friday July 02, 2021 @04:20PM (#27716395)
Hair count? The number of hairs pulled dots to frustration.
Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by blarg1 on Friday July 02, 2021 @09:16PM (#27718570)
how fast they bang their keyboard
Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by egnehots on Friday July 02, 2021 @06:38AM (#27709885)
Yeah, but don't forget that's just the first post in a serie.

Let's hope that the next post will have more meaningful technical content..

Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by peakaboo on Friday July 02, 2021 @05:33AM (#27709536)
Look at the evolution of the web technologies. Lots of improvements. Now look at the web. It's unusable without an ad blocker. The tech mafia keeps tracking people and censoring the web, practicing right-speak and removing critical voices. Can a new Web technology solve that? If not, it doesnt matter.
Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by rchaud on Friday July 02, 2021 @02:19PM (#27714905)
You're conflating web technology with the content strategy of web publications and Google's moderation approach. These are 3 entirely separate issues.
Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by azangru on Friday July 02, 2021 @08:12AM (#27710429)
I find this sentiment baffling.

> Now look at the web. It's unusable without an ad blocker.

Don't like ads? Don't visit sites that run ads. For instance, I can't read most of online newspapers because of the ads; so I just don't bother. I visit HN instead.

> The tech mafia keeps tracking people and censoring the web, practicing right-speak and removing critical voices.

I don't know what right-speak is (is it speaking correctly or speaking on right-wing political topics?), but:

- peer-to-peer technologies exist (Odysee, Bitchute, etc.; still relying on the browser to work)

- less censorious networks exist (e.g. locals)

- you can self-host your own platform where you set the rules (phpBB, mattermost, etc.)

- you can run your own blog ang right-speak there to your heart's content; and maybe if this right-speech in interesting, you can attract commenters to exchange ideas (if you find this valuable)

Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by jfengel on Friday July 02, 2021 @03:35PM (#27715852)
I think "right-speak" is his neologism for "politically correct". What he wants is to practice "wrong-speak", i.e. speech not approved by whatever shadowy forces are constraining him.
Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by azangru on Saturday July 03, 2021 @09:51AM (#27721619)
I believe you are correct; I misread the comment. In any case, practicing wrong-speak on a resource you have control over is just as easy as practicing right-speak :-)
Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by Santosh83 on Friday July 02, 2021 @09:53AM (#27711550)
> Don't like ads? Don't visit sites that run ads.

Lots of people, especially in the developing world, don't have that luxury, and they're also incidentally those with underpowered devices and less tech savvy to go get an ad blocker.

Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by azangru on Friday July 02, 2021 @10:04AM (#27711653)
I thought we were talking about our own individual choices. At least we can do something about them.

As the problem is described, I don't see any way how it can be approached.

- Don't want ads and tracking — Well, they exist and aren't going anywhere.

- Don't use sites that show ads — Nah, can't, don't have this luxury.

- Install ad blocker — Nah, don't know how or don't have a powerful enough device.

What else is there to do? Keep seeing ads, I suppose. Learn to endure them somehow.

Re:RenderingNG: Ready for the next generation of web content by contravariant on Friday July 02, 2021 @06:33AM (#27709851)
Clearly in the old version the scrolling performance becomes negative at some point, which would be interesting to see.