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Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by hytdstd on Monday June 28, 2021 @07:29PM (#27669687)
Would it be better if google/youtube didn't correct its mistakes?
Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by avsteele on Monday June 28, 2021 @07:33PM (#27669722)
A standard, uniformly applied, is more likely to be removed (when its seen to be bad) than one inconsistently applied on the basis of ideology or public outcry.
Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by xkjkls on Monday June 28, 2021 @08:33PM (#27670176)
Is it possible to have a uniformly applied standard for content as diverse as YouTube's? We can't even find a consistent standard to identify pornography, much less all of the other content YouTube wants off its platform
Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by leppr on Monday June 28, 2021 @08:32PM (#27670163)
And this is why public protests are good for governments. They channel a lot of energy into a few precise issues, away from broad structural changes.
Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by naturalauction on Monday June 28, 2021 @09:42PM (#27670678)
Are you sure? Like the Black Lives Matter protests over the summer were about broad structural issues in policing. Unless you meant even bigger structural issues such as systemic racism which they were only tangentially about but definitely increased the awareness of.
Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by IfOnlyYouKnew on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @02:53AM (#27672697)
So that's why Russia or Myanmar shoot or arrest protesters. Tiananmen Square was also just the government's attempt to help the protester's cause?
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Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by dang on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:04PM (#27692858)
Flamewar comments will get you banned here. No more of this, please.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by Ar-Curunir on Monday June 28, 2021 @09:47PM (#27670711)
Get your fascist crybaby self out of here.
Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by dang on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:04PM (#27692859)
Flamewar comments will get you banned here. No more of this, please.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by apostacy on Monday June 28, 2021 @10:13PM (#27670909)
Yes, because right now it is effectively Google having a pretext to remove whatever they want, by only selectively overriding moderation.

Just yesterday, a group posting Xinjiang videos was censored from YouTube.[1]

Are their videos going to be reinstated? Unlikely. They will have to try their luck on some obscure platform

Imagine if you had video evidence of human rights abuses (lots of people do), just hope that you can raise enough outrage quickly enough before it gets flagged and removed.

I know that Google and Facebook are private platforms, but that should not excuse them covering for genocidal maniacs.[2]

[1]: https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-youtube-takes-d...

[2]: https://www.propublica.org/article/sheryl-sandberg-and-top-f...

Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by unixfg on Monday June 28, 2021 @07:33PM (#27669714)
I believe that was the point being made in the comment:

"...competitors could differentiate themselves by providing better moderation policies and whenever some popular account got banned from YouTube that would generate a lot of traffic for alternatives"

Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by throwaway2048 on Monday June 28, 2021 @08:11PM (#27669977)
the problem is its mostly the dregs that get banned, and having a platform full of dregs is its own serious issue.
Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by anfilt on Monday June 28, 2021 @08:18PM (#27670032)
Yea and also having it as your initial content off puts a lot of viewers, and similar to people making and creating stuff.

While it might boost you initial user-base its gonna make growth slow to a crawl long term unless you have some clever way if dealing with it.

Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by 8note on Monday June 28, 2021 @09:39PM (#27670663)
I think your solution is to have people pay you to put up that content.
Re:YouTube reinstates Right Wing Watch by FreeSpeech on Monday June 28, 2021 @07:44PM (#27669796)
False dichotomy. Would be best if they didn't make them in the first place through employing naive censorship heuristics.