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Re:Near, the emulator developer of bsnes, higan, and more, h... by dexwiz on Sunday June 27, 2021 @03:08PM (#27654289)
Kiwi Farms is vile. I stumbled upon it while researching someone who turned out to be a target of one of their hate campaign. Its a PHP Forum-style site, but with entire sub forums dedicated to small groups and event specific people. Long running topics would be an entire persons hate campaign against them.

The members seem to have a strange, self-claimed moral authority. The posts are a mix of records of what they have done to harass people, updates on past targets, ideas for future hate, and justification about why this person deserves it. Overall it was sad for everyone involved. I hope they find some solace in their lives, if only to let their victims find it also.

Re:Near, the emulator developer of bsnes, higan, and more, h... by philpem on Monday June 28, 2021 @02:38AM (#27658745)
I admire your ability to solely wish solace on them. I'd rather the long arm of the law caught up to them.
Re:Near, the emulator developer of bsnes, higan, and more, h... by sterlind on Monday June 28, 2021 @03:08AM (#27658890)
there's not a lot the law can do, unfortunately. doxxing isn't illegal in the US, at least federally, except against people in certain positions [0]. there's a high standard for harassment to be considered illegal. bullying is not illegal. hate speech is not illegal. even if individuals on Kiwi Farms can be prosecuted, it wouldn't take the site down. and to be prosecuted, the prosecutors would have to care. there just aren't the laws..

I'm friends with a few people who have been targeted by Kiwi Farms. Near is far from the only person driven to suicide by overwhelming bullying. it's one reason I keep a low profile - I'm just too scared.

0. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/119

Re:Near, the emulator developer of bsnes, higan, and more, h... by _delirium on Monday June 28, 2021 @04:24PM (#27667520)
> there's a high standard for harassment to be considered illegal

True, although it's sometimes possible to do a 2-step process under a lower standard. First, ask for a restraining order in civil court. Getting a restraining order has a much lower bar than charging someone with a crime does. If they don't stop, and violate the terms of the restraining order, then they can be sanctioned in various ways (civilly or criminally) for violating the restraining order, depending on the jurisdiction.

There are organizations that regularly do this pro bono for domestic violence cases, where the process is pretty well understood [1]. I'm not as sure what organizations or assistance exist for online harassment, unfortunately.

[1] https://www.womenslaw.org/laws/general/restraining-orders

Re:Near, the emulator developer of bsnes, higan, and more, h... by _etyf on Monday June 28, 2021 @03:30AM (#27659017)
>The members seem to have a strange, self-claimed moral authority. The posts are a mix of records of what they have done to harass people, updates on past targets, ideas for future hate, and justification about why this person deserves it.

Sounds a lot like Twitter.

Re:Near, the emulator developer of bsnes, higan, and more, h... by papreclip on Monday June 28, 2021 @11:43AM (#27663357)
The biggest difference is that you're thinking about a very nasty 0.1% of twitter that use the platform to harass, whereas harassment is the primary purpose of this site.
Re:Near, the emulator developer of bsnes, higan, and more, h... by user-the-name on Monday June 28, 2021 @04:25AM (#27659320)
Sounds nothing at all like Twitter. These are people who cheer when they drive someone to suicide. Do not diminish their utter depravity by comparing them to something far less extreme.
Re:Near, the emulator developer of bsnes, higan, and more, h... by _etyf on Monday June 28, 2021 @06:08AM (#27659888)
No, this sounds exactly like Twitter.

On Twitter, self-appointed mobs of the morally righteous call for violence against children [0], farm lulz from the killings of police officers [1], dox strangers to get them fired over off-color jokes [2], and endlessly harass and threaten certain conservative journalists and activists [3]. Actual Twitter employees harassed right-wing reporter Andy Ngo [4] after a real-world mob attack sent him to the ER with a brain hemmorhage, an event which "ACAB Twitter" continues to celebrate and remind him about.

The trolls on Twitter blend in by being a few medium-sized fish in the ocean. The trolls on Kiwi Farms are more visible as big fish in their own small pond. They're ideologically flipped compared to Twitter trolls, but fundamentally alike in their methods, moral posturing, and disregard for basic human decency. They're all an enormous net-negative for humanity.

[0] https://medium.com/@RevolutionaryId/twitter-democratizing-mo...

[1] https://twitter.com/halfsleeps/status/1320955923205033984

[2] https://news.yahoo.com/journalist-apologizes-for--hasjustine...

[3] https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/its-insane-were-having-a-...

[4] https://archive.is/VGuZy

Re:Near, the emulator developer of bsnes, higan, and more, h... by orf on Monday June 28, 2021 @07:05AM (#27660282)
No, it still doesn’t sound like Twitter.