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Re:Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Elec... by Hamuko on Saturday June 26, 2021 @09:50AM (#27641835)
>What's the underlying goal you want to achieve

Performance, small bundle sizes and native UI widgets. And judging by all of the Electron apps failing in these departments, I guess you really do need native apps.

Re:Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Elec... by MaxBarraclough on Saturday June 26, 2021 @12:07PM (#27643037)
It's the memory bloat that stands out to me. Many modern laptops have 8GB of RAM. (Curiously this number hasn't really changed in the last 9 years.) 500MB of bloat isn't a trivial fraction of that.

Also, an application that runs constantly in the background, is under a greater obligation to make efficient use of system resources.

> judging by all of the Electron apps failing in these departments, I guess you really do need native apps.

I'd put that differently: solutions heavily based on web technologies seem to consistently fail to be anywhere near as efficient as solutions that use conventional toolkits. (Sometimes someone will suggest this isn't true if the web-based solution is well implemented, but they are never able to give an example of such an application.) On most platforms, Qt doesn't count as being truly native, but it's still far more efficient than Electron.

Re:Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Elec... by MattGaiser on Saturday June 26, 2021 @09:54AM (#27641862)
> small bundle sizes

Space are not precious anymore. Nor is bandwidth.

Re:Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Elec... by toast0 on Saturday June 26, 2021 @02:03PM (#27644257)
BestBuy sells some Windows laptops with 64 GB eMMC. Space is precious on those. Chrome devices often ship with 16 GB; if Microsoft could make Windows viable at that size, they could push the absolute low end prices down a smidge and keep more users.

I get 60 Mbps down and an upgrade would be $50k. Bandwidth is relatively precious to me.

Re:Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Elec... by chrisseaton on Saturday June 26, 2021 @03:02PM (#27644809)
> BestBuy sells some Windows laptops with 64 GB eMMC.

I would suggest that people are likely not attempting to use enterprise-grade collaboration software on these machines, so that's not a problem.

Re:Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Elec... by Hamuko on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:43PM (#27645649)
Re:Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Elec... by betaby on Saturday June 26, 2021 @10:18AM (#27642071)
Both are very expensive on mobile.
Re:Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Elec... by Hamuko on Saturday June 26, 2021 @09:56AM (#27641875)
Says who? A Surface Laptop 4 comes with a 256 GB SSD. And the Surface Pro 7 comes with a 128 GB SSD.
Re:Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Elec... by criddell on Saturday June 26, 2021 @10:33AM (#27642196)
Something that's a resource hog will likely consume a lot of battery as well. That's a big deal for something you want running all the time.