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Re:Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but... by JumpCrisscross on Sunday June 20, 2021 @11:18PM (#27575968)
> It's the sort of thing you only do drunk on kool-aid

Did not realise believing in a mission is akin to joining a suicide cult.

Work doesn’t have to suck. It doesn’t have to be everyone’s calling. But it is for some of us, and sixty+ hours a week can be time well spent. My time at start-ups has been time around colleagues I love, work I enjoy and a mission I believe in. (I was also decently compensated while there and exorbitantly so on the upside.)

There are countless public servants, non-profit employees, artists and public-company workers putting in those hours and more finding reward in their work. No need to deem everyone who doesn’t fit your lifestyle an idiot.

Re:Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but... by whateveracct on Sunday June 20, 2021 @11:22PM (#27575991)
I mean - feel free if you actually think your job is aligned with your life's goal.

Me? I'd rather do what I can to make Art. So it's nice that I can get a software company to subsidize it thoroughly.

I'm just glad I can get paid effectively for being Skilled instead of laboring with my Skill. Availability is the best ability after all.

Re:Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but... by failwhaleshark on Sunday June 20, 2021 @11:40PM (#27576078)
There's a balance between passionate hustle and diving into burnout. Some people can do more than others. etc etc. It's more sustainable for mental health to not make every waking minute about work, and take breaks and vacations. If you don't have a life, there's no point to working.
Re:Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but... by XorNot on Monday June 21, 2021 @12:01AM (#27576197)
It doesn't have to, but the most likely outcome in a startup is it goes bankrupt, what you did disappears into the dark hole of failed ideas, and no one sees it.

It's a suckers game: the default behavior needs to be "when the founders get greedy and kick me out...what will I do then? How will I feel about that time?"

Re:Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but... by JumpCrisscross on Monday June 21, 2021 @12:13AM (#27576255)
> what you did disappears into the dark hole of failed ideas

If the work is for financing a life outside it, yes. But if the work is rewarding in itself, then said failure is—while highly disappointing—balanced by the relationships, stories and skills gained therefrom.

This is absolutely a risk tolerance and personality matrix thing. I just want to push back against this recently-popular philosophy which idealises the Western European work ethic and lifestyle. It is one among many local optima.

Re:Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but... by Dylan16807 on Monday June 21, 2021 @03:30AM (#27577083)
Working 60 hours a week probably leaves you with less relationships+stories+skills than working 40 hours a week.