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Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by jnxx on Sunday June 20, 2021 @05:36PM (#27574149)
This is great! The one fly in the ointment, pardon, is that Nix is a bit lax about trusting proprietary and binary-only stuff. It would be great if there were a FLOSS-only core system for NixOS which would be fully transparent.
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by quarantine on Sunday June 20, 2021 @05:39PM (#27574167)
Nix/Nixpkgs blocks unfree packages by default, so I presume it would be relatively easy to disable packages with the `unFree` attribute.
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by jnxx on Sunday June 20, 2021 @05:46PM (#27574192)
I totally believe it is possible, it is perhaps more of a cultural thing.
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by eptcyka on Sunday June 20, 2021 @05:50PM (#27574226)
It's the pragmatic thing. I wouldn't use nixOS if I wasn't able to use it on a 16 core modern desktop. I don't think there's a performant and 100% FLOSS compatible computer that wouldn't make me want to gouge my eyes out with a rusty spoon when building stuff for ARM.
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by zamadatix on Sunday June 20, 2021 @05:59PM (#27574277)
Talos has 44 core/176 thread server options which can take 2 TBs of DDR4 that are FSF certified. The board firmware is also open and has reproducible builds.
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by tadfisher on Sunday June 20, 2021 @06:40PM (#27574510)
That is way more expensive than a 16-core desktop, though. Workstations are a class above consumer-grade desktops and that's reflected in the price.
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by zamadatix on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:02PM (#27584441)
Talos have as low as 8 core desktop options as well this is just an example of how far you can take FLOSS hardware. Not that I consider a 16 core x86 desktop "consumer-grade" in the first place (speaking as a 5950X owner).

Probably not fit for replacing Grandma's budget PC but then again grandma probably isn't worried about the ARM cross compile performance of their machine running NixOS either.

Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by tadfisher on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @01:03PM (#27594193)
Okay, now I'm interested :)

(I am worried about the ARM cross compile performance of my machine running NixOS)

Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by eptcyka on Sunday June 20, 2021 @06:38PM (#27574497)
Thanks, I was legitimately unaware of this option. That does smash my argument, but I'm not likely to be using a system like that anytime soon due to cost concerns mostly.
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by kaba0 on Sunday June 20, 2021 @07:54PM (#27574895)
And it’s not just hardware, there is a useful limit on purity of licenses. In many cases only proprietary programs can do the work at all, or orders of magnitudes better.
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by rejectedandsad on Sunday June 20, 2021 @06:21PM (#27574404)
> It would be great if there were a FLOSS-only core system for NixOS

Might be wrong but isn't this part of the premise for Guix/GuixSD?

Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by Filligree on Monday June 21, 2021 @11:46AM (#27580317)
And it's good that it exists, I guess?

But it can't do any of the things I bought my computer to do, so it's of limited value to me.