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Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by rvdmei on Saturday June 19, 2021 @04:09AM (#27558757)
Just the thought of Google being able to do something like this scares the $&@*#% out of me. How on earth can you trust a company that does something like this?
Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by gscott on Saturday June 19, 2021 @04:38AM (#27558896)
Next thing you know... they will change your Nest settings if they think you set your air conditioning too cold!
Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by perryizgr8 on Saturday June 19, 2021 @05:36AM (#27559142)
The justification will have something to do with being more carbon neutral or something.
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Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by mnw21cam on Saturday June 19, 2021 @05:39AM (#27559155)
Everyone trusts Google, whether they like it or not. This is the definition of trust that security operations use: A trusts B if B is capable of doing something nasty to A.

Google has a heck-load of money. They could pay a disreputable aggregate company to deliver a load of tonne-bags of gravel to my front garden, blocking my car in, and generally destroying the landscaping. I trust them not to do this, and the reason this is true is because I haven't taken 100%-effective steps that would prevent them from doing so, and therefore they are capable of it. This example may seem a little ridiculous (there are no 100%-effective steps I could take, and I think they're trustworthy on this particular score), but it is a technically correct example of how everyone trusts Google.

Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by saagarjha on Saturday June 19, 2021 @05:48AM (#27559196)
In this case you also probably trust the legal system to let you sue Google when they do this.
Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by throwaway2048 on Saturday June 19, 2021 @06:36AM (#27559395)
That is a pedantic and useless definition of trust.
Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by jjgreen on Saturday June 19, 2021 @06:49AM (#27559460)
To be fair, that's trust in the security sense, fairy widely used in those circles.
Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by bigiain on Saturday June 19, 2021 @08:29AM (#27559899)
This is a bad example.

Putin or Kim Jong Il or Brad Pitt could also pay to get gravel delivered to your address. You have not taken any specific 100% effective steps to prevent them, any more than you’ve done with Google, right?

Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by ahofmann on Saturday June 19, 2021 @04:16AM (#27558791)
Everyone running android play services on their phone has to trust Google, right?
Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by mrweasel on Saturday June 19, 2021 @04:20AM (#27558806)
Many might not have a choice. If you need a SmartPhone and can’t afford an iPhone, you’re out of options. Most of the apps people actually need has to be installed via the Play Store.

You basically get a (more) privacy focus OS from a luxury brand or you get your OS from an advertising company.

Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by marosgrego on Saturday June 19, 2021 @07:46AM (#27559696)
They can run an ungoogled ROM, like LineageOS.
Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by perryizgr8 on Saturday June 19, 2021 @05:38AM (#27559154)
I don't, but I have no other alternative that feels better to me.

1. Buy a standard android but spend ages trying to de-google it.

2. Buy an iphone, but then I just have to trust another trillion $ company, and pay much more too.

3. Live my life without a phone.

I choose 1 because that seems the least worse option right now.

Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by malka on Saturday June 19, 2021 @04:30AM (#27558854)
For one, I don't. But since having a smartphone is mandatory, I have one.
Re:Massachusetts health notifications app installed without ... by rvdmei on Saturday June 19, 2021 @09:43AM (#27560401)
To some extent, but this is beyond what is acceptable. Even if this is so support COVID notifications. Any install on an unmanaged device should be asking for permission to install something, unless you opt-in or something.