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Re:Minimum Viable Self by username90 on Friday June 18, 2021 @09:09PM (#27556863)
Facebook became popular because it was possibly to just observe and not be forced to participate. Everything before Facebook told you when and who viewed your content, Facebook didn't and explicitly banned any sort of apps tat could log who saw your stuff.

So forcing participation sounds good in theory but in practice people love to lurk and hates being seen, even those who produce content. And since Facebook every new social media phenomena like Twitter or Instagram also doesn't show you who looked around at your stuff, so allowing non participation is a must in any social media today for it to become popular.

Re:Minimum Viable Self by rektide on Friday June 18, 2021 @10:25PM (#27557204)
MySpace, LiveJournal,... none of these had surveillance built in. I'm not sure what "Everything before Facebook" you are referring to, but I can't think of a single system I used that let me surveil my readers.
Re:Minimum Viable Self by username90 on Saturday June 19, 2021 @04:28AM (#27558843)
Myspace let people track everyone who visited their page, that it wasn't a default doesn't matter when everyone just installed their own trackers. Same thing with live journal. They didn't try to stop the practice, instead they encouraged it and had guides how to do it. Facebook was the first to ban all sorts of tracking.
Re:Minimum Viable Self by stadium on Friday June 18, 2021 @11:25PM (#27557472)
> Facebook didn't and explicitly banned any sort of apps tat could log who saw your stuff.

Except for Cambridge Analytica, the "who unfriended me" apps, and a plethora of other apps that extracted and exploited Facebook data.

Re:Minimum Viable Self by username90 on Saturday June 19, 2021 @04:43AM (#27558928)
How is that relevant at all? When people talk about privacy they care a million times more if their friends see what they do than if some big organization sees what they do. What I'm talking about is people getting a list of who viewed their content, that is they can see who viewed their beach pictures etc.
Re:Minimum Viable Self by stadium on Saturday June 19, 2021 @12:46PM (#27562063)
It is relevant because Facebook is leaky by design, and it's misinformation to state that Facebook banned apps that gathered information on usage.

Why should they allow apps permissions to siphon off any info in the first place? Instead they ban them after being caught and plead ignorance.

Re:Minimum Viable Self by AlexCoventry on Friday June 18, 2021 @09:58PM (#27557089)
> since Facebook every new social media phenomena like Twitter or Instagram also doesn't show you who looked around at your stuff,

LinkedIn seems to.

Re:Minimum Viable Self by tayo42 on Saturday June 19, 2021 @03:28AM (#27558551)
Same for Instagram stories and snap chat and I'd guess Facebook does too?
Re:Minimum Viable Self by username90 on Saturday June 19, 2021 @04:25AM (#27558824)
LinkedIn is older than facebook.