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Re:Exposing Tether [video] by raesene9 on Friday June 18, 2021 @09:11AM (#27549902)
Indeed there were some interesting pieces in that. They would argue that the composition showed that they had the required reserves, others would argue it showed they were insolvent :)

As tether specifies the right to repay any redeemed tokens in securities, assuming the securities they hold actually keep their value, it seems like they'd be fine

From https://tether.to/legal/ "Tether reserves the right to delay the redemption or withdrawal of Tether Tokens if such delay is necessitated by the illiquidity or unavailability or loss of any Reserves held by Tether to back the Tether Tokens, and Tether reserves the right to redeem Tether Tokens by in-kind redemptions of securities and other assets held in the Reserves."

Of course the $60b question is, what are all the non-cash reserves they have, and how much are they worth.

Re:Exposing Tether [video] by ethbr0 on Friday June 18, 2021 @09:35AM (#27550109)
The broader historical observation is: given a large amount of money, a requirement to keep it continuously invested, and a cloak behind which to operate, what financial institution in the history of humanity has made good choices?

At best, they're choosing investments incompetently. (Chance Tether's team is equivalent to professionals at major banks?)

At worst, they're choosing investments to maximize personal gain.

Or to put it another way, what sort of company do you think is knocking on Tether's door, offering a good deal in exchange for a few billion "worth" of notes?

It ain't Coke.

Re:Exposing Tether [video] by qeternity on Friday June 18, 2021 @10:03AM (#27550419)
> At worst, they're choosing investments to maximize personal gain.

At worst, they don't have any investments.

Re:Exposing Tether [video] by ethbr0 on Friday June 18, 2021 @10:07AM (#27550460)
It's possible, but given a choice between "flagrantly lying to the New York AG who just investigated you" vs "buying cheap debt no one else would touch and then overvaluing it, because you aren't regulated", the latter seems like a less legally perilous way of keeping things going.
Re:Exposing Tether [video] by qeternity on Friday June 18, 2021 @10:13AM (#27550516)
Yes, that might be more likely. I was just framing things "at worst".

Deltec, the bank that Tether bought, has a desk specializing in zombie debt, so it's entirely possible they have loads of debt bought for pennies on the dollar, that they have through accounting/market shenanigans recognized at par as their "commercial paper".

Re:Exposing Tether [video] by ethbr0 on Friday June 18, 2021 @10:17AM (#27550554)
I mean... technically they're completely unregulated, right?

So they don't even have to perform shenanigans.

They can just buy $1 par debt at $0.01 from Bob's Used Cars and value / declare it at $1. It's a super shady move, and would shake confidence if known, but would seem legally defensible. ("We valued it at a fair price. It turned out we were wrong and overvalued it. Oops.")

They could probably declare it at >$1 if they really wanted to, but why do hard fraud instead of easy fraud?

Re:Exposing Tether [video] by qeternity on Friday June 18, 2021 @10:35AM (#27550780)
Well if you take that view, then they don't need the $0.01 paper in the first place. If they are indeed totally unregulated, then they can just commit fraud without risk.
Re:Exposing Tether [video] by ethbr0 on Friday June 18, 2021 @10:40AM (#27550861)
That's where the NY AG's case comes in, I think.

They are unregulated, but they're now required to publish a breakdown of their assets.

Before, they could have said "We have billions and billions in assets." Now, they're required to enumerate and value their assets, to the extent required to publish the breakdown, as part of a legal agreement.

So I guess before it could have been riskless fraud. Now, it's more risky fraud. And overvaluing assets seems like an easy way to keep the wheels turning without obviously pissing off a state AG.

Re:Exposing Tether [video] by ac29 on Friday June 18, 2021 @11:50AM (#27551616)
The latter would imply they had any cash to buy debt in the first place. One of the most common, and most credible theories is that they issue Tether to exchanges in exchange for short term debt obligations. There's never any actual money changing hands.
Re:Exposing Tether [video] by raesene9 on Friday June 18, 2021 @09:42AM (#27550185)
Yep it definitely seems probable that there's risky behaviour at the least.
Re:Exposing Tether [video] by notwedtm on Friday June 18, 2021 @09:34AM (#27550099)
It's all broken down in the video. A very large chunk is on "commercial paper" which is unsecured loans to...?
Re:Exposing Tether [video] by raesene9 on Friday June 18, 2021 @09:40AM (#27550161)
Indeed that's the question to... it's a huge variance depending on who it's to, the terms of the loans and the interest rates received.

No Basel II capital adequacy requirements here :)