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Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by kostyal on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @07:05AM (#27513567)
The world's countries at a party, tech edition:

US: We'll bring the software!

China: We'll bring the hardware!

EU: We'll bring the regulation!

Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by uhorb on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @07:19AM (#27513660)
Ah yes, the country of the European Union
Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by Der_Einzige on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @03:44PM (#27520511)
One of the resolutions that I frequently make competitive high school debaters debate about is a proposal for the EU to federalize and form the united states of Europe. Honestly, the EU really should try this. African leaders are also trying to form a United States of Africa, and I wouldn't be surprised if something like it happens by the 2030s or 2040s...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Africa

Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by afiori on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @08:54AM (#27514610)
Categories are created for people not people for categoried

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-ma...

Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by r8d7u3h3 on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @11:45AM (#27517138)
Frankly, given the primacy of EU law it's strange to me that EU members feel like they really are countries anymore.
Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by esperent on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @06:47PM (#27522591)
I'm guessing you're not European from this comment. This is not meant as an attack; it just seems like your comment lacks the perspective of actually living in the EU.

EU law makes news. It doesn't make many obvious appearances in day to day life when you're living there, however.

Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by uhorb on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @01:55PM (#27518984)
From my perspective, EU law does not play the most dominant role in everyday life. Apart from the big (or super silly) changes, it’s often more of a news maker. Take that plus big cultural differences (most notably: not being able to understand each other’s language), and you get a feeling of own nationalities.
Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by jokethrowaway on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @06:30PM (#27522418)
There are still so many cultural and legislative differences between countries that people don't feel Europeans, they identify with the individual country.

The UK was definitely the country which stood out the most in EU, so after Brexit, the EU lost one furthest away country in its block, in terms of diversity.

EU law cover stuff you hardly run into. Sure, you have euros everywhere but they don't regulate how much taxes you pay or how your national health care is managed.

All is fine until they start regulating on things that matter. Immigration is definitely one of the first sector where people started noticing they're in the EU, because they're unhappy with the results.

Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by kostyal on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @08:13AM (#27514138)
it's a joke you pedant
Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by usr1106 on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @11:05AM (#27516554)
US bureaucracy is not any better than EU. Have you dealt with the FDA, FAA or SEC?

The difference is that the EU tries to protect people in different aspects like social rights or privacy. The US does not offer similar protection, so in some sectors you don't hit the bureaucracy.

Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by jokethrowaway on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @06:34PM (#27522470)
The US started as a fresh new country with minimal state and unbridled capitalism and became the largest state in the world. There are still a few remnants of the old days (like all that capital $$$) but it basically become an Europe with expensive healthcare, expensive universities and tons of social issues.
Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by toyg on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @08:39AM (#27514389)
might be a joke, but the thought of being the Wise Old Men setting rules for the rest of the world plays perfectly well to our historical strengths, so to speak. Euro man burden, anyone?
Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by aneutron on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @07:30AM (#27513748)
ASML says hi from the Netherlands
Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by bsedlm on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @08:34AM (#27514345)
But does ASML build anything? or is their business just owning the "IP" (though, granted knowing this things is not trivial, and it's even more difficult given their closedness)
Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by aneutron on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @08:36AM (#27514364)
As far as publicly available information goes, everything, including their HQ and Manufacturing, happens in Veldhoven in the Netherlands.
Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by bryan_w on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @02:54PM (#27519863)
China brings the labor, Africa brings the materials.
Re:Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling by anoncake on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @08:52AM (#27514577)
Yeah, China. The other land of the free.