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Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by blakesterz on Monday June 14, 2021 @08:52AM (#27501939)
I've only been 1/2 following along with this, I'm not sure I get it now. Freenode staff now has total control over every single change on Freenode? Won't that drive everyone (literally everyone) away? What's the Freenode staff's goal here? I'm not a Freenode user and have no interest in this at all, just wondering as a somewhat interested outsider.
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by zatertip on Monday June 14, 2021 @08:58AM (#27501997)
You are correct. This will drive everyone away. Which is why we have graphs like this:

https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php

Freenode is dying and the staff are actively killing it.

Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by 300bps on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:08AM (#27502056)
That’s an amazing drop in users!

Thanks for that link - I was on Undernet starting in 1995 and even though the charts only went back to 1998 it was interesting to see the popularity of different IRC networks wax and wane over the years.

Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by GekkePrutser on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:08AM (#27502059)
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by Aeolun on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:39AM (#27502370)
I miss a big button saying ‘NO, freenode is not dead yet’ on that website :/
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by Lex-2008 on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @11:19AM (#27516760)
Now it has big glaring "YES."
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by wizzwizz4 on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:53AM (#27504110)
At what threshold would you change it? A thousand users? Three users?
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by tothecore13423 on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @09:19AM (#27514986)
Doesn't make sense. If its dying why bother killing?
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by Akronymus on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @07:35AM (#27527314)
Because apparently it isn't dying fast enough.
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by _fat_santa on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:16AM (#27502138)
I wonder the same as an outsider. If you drive away all your users what do you really have at the end? Maybe they thought they were a monopoly and could act with impunity, though that seems like a foolish assumption
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by danaris on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:52AM (#27502519)
It's clear from Lee's words and actions that that's exactly what he thought.

That, combined with a fragile ego and controlling personality, led very predictably to him reacting to people starting to talk about leaving by trying to tighten his grip on everything—and everything slipping through his fingers.

Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by techrat on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:56AM (#27502568)
> That, combined with a fragile ego and controlling personality...

Oh, people barely know the half of it... and for those wondering just how bad it can get, peruse one of the court cases currently against him personally.

https://corrupt.tech/1708590130-ocr-compressed.pdf

Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by junon on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:46AM (#27503194)
Holy shit. This is crazy if it's true.

> For example, he told-LTM employees that he wanted to hire a female candidate simply because he wanted to have sex with her. Similarly, Lee expressed his desire to set up a "modeling agency" in the Hollywood Hills that would actually be a front for illegal prostitution (i.e., the "models" would be paid escorts). To that end, Lee circulated a memo to male LTM executives advising them to make sure and wear condoms when having sex with the "models."

I really hope they have a copy of that memo. That alone would be damning.

Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by techrat on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:38AM (#27503890)
It gets so much trashier shortly after that segment.

> Making matters worse, Lee also had an ongoing relationship with a mistress that he brought to company functions and the LTM offices, despite people knowing that he was married. Lee met his mistress through a company offering female companionship for money. Lee abandoned his wife and newborn child to spend time with this woman, and their relationship was toxic. His mistress was physically and verbally abusive towards Lee, erratic and unpredictable, and caused Lee to act over-emotionally.

> The two fought on a daily basis. And this happened in front of LTM employees, including Plaintiffs. For example, a few days after the February 2015 Meeting, Lee and his mistress had a violent altercation at a club in front of Park, Ken, James, and other LTM personnel. His mistress became infuriated and violent when Lee did not pay attention to her to attend to a conference call concerning LTM business. She punched Lee in the face, causing Lee to lose a tooth.

All that MtGOX money couldn't buy class.

Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by ipaddr on Monday June 14, 2021 @02:03PM (#27505959)
This is more entertaining than anything hollywood has put out in awhilw.
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by dylan604 on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:44AM (#27503156)
This reads like a day time soap, but it also sounds like many other stories. The fact that they referenced Uber's start up culture made me laugh.
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by hu3 on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:42AM (#27503942)
> Plaintiffs noticed that Lee was a habitual user of marijuana and cocaine, and would frequently abuse drugs in the office in front of his employees.

WTF

Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by danaris on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:30AM (#27502967)
Hah, I've been trying to be fairly circumspect in my descriptions throughout this, as all I knew about Lee was what I'd seen in the stories about Freenode—but yikes, that's pretty crazy. Makes what he's been doing here make perfect sense, though.
Re:Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Fre... by syshum on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:53AM (#27502543)
That is the beauty of Open Protocols it is easy to switch to a new service provider and why Companies like Google removed all Open protocols from their services once they had a large market share