Re:Listening to speech with a guinea pig-to-human brain-to-b...
by noobermin on Monday June 14, 2021 @05:46PM
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>Study participants completed a four-word forced-choice test and identified the correct word in 34.8% of trials. The participants' recognition, defined by the ability to choose the same word twice, whether right or wrong, was 53.6%.
Re:Listening to speech with a guinea pig-to-human brain-to-b...
by ChuckMcM on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:24PM
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Better than chance, so there is something there, but not super great so it's hard to say what is being measured.
After reading the paper it seems that the biggest takeaway is that animal neural structures are sufficiently similar to human neural structures that they can process some of the same stimuli in much the same way.
The other interesting thing for me is the possibility that you could modulate these signals for RF transmission (I do like SDR's after all) and with a cochlear implant, and SDR, a computer to receive the signals from the radio and feed them to your ear, and a rodent wearing a backpack to send the data. You could have a rat running around the place and the "operator" could listen in on whatever the rat could hear. NOTE: There are at least two, if not four decimal orders of magnitude of work needed to get to something like that if it is possible. Not the least of which is increasing the bandwidth/fidelity of the hearing interface.
Re:Listening to speech with a guinea pig-to-human brain-to-b...
by ineedasername on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:50PM
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So eventually we'll get to the point where people say things like: "I'm only running a dual guinea setup. I can't wait to upgrade to an octo-guinea for HD perceptual transfer."
And
"I can't believe some people go direct brain to brain. Without a guinea buffer you open yourself up to all kinds attacks. Who wants to risk having their sense of taste ransomwared? Sure there's ethical issues with guinea arrays, but better their synapses get fried than than mine."
Re:Listening to speech with a guinea pig-to-human brain-to-b...
by _carbyau_ on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @12:25AM
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The cyberpunk "jack-into-the-matrix person is bleeding from the eyes due to feedback" trope is often complained about.
"Why not use a fuse?" people cry.
Well, storytelling is why that trope exists. Now storytelling has no excuse not to fix it. If military trained dolphins are hacker supremes then guinea pigs are the "fuse".
Re:Listening to speech with a guinea pig-to-human brain-to-b...
by ineedasername on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @09:30PM
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Guinea pig farms selectively breading for ever smaller pigs will replace nanometer race in chip fabs. Neurons per mm^3 and the ratio of brain to overall body mass will be the new benchmarks. Heat dissipation will still be an issue, with the added complications of efficient sustenance delivery and excrement disposal. Cutting edge research will be done on immunology to prevent guinea array viruses.
There's definitely enough material here for a Douglas Adams style spoof on the traditional cyberpunk novel.
Re:Listening to speech with a guinea pig-to-human brain-to-b...
by type0 on Monday June 14, 2021 @06:47PM
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Tame animals are probably like kids or juveniles on neuronal and epigenetic level, at least that was the conclusion from siberian artic fox taming experiment.
I would be more interested in what wild animals have to say about life, specially smart ones like dolphins and elephants.
Re:Listening to speech with a guinea pig-to-human brain-to-b...
by dang on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @12:24AM
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"Please don't complain about website formatting, back-button breakage, and similar annoyances. They're too common to be interesting. Exception: when the author is present. Then friendly feedback might be helpful."
Re:Listening to speech with a guinea pig-to-human brain-to-b...
by oh_sigh on Monday June 14, 2021 @08:46PM
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It would be nice if you didn't need to grant a 3rd party extension privilege to literally everything you browse, to get websites to not warn you about a feature that has been in browsers for multiple decades.
Re:Listening to speech with a guinea pig-to-human brain-to-b...
by Nursie on Monday June 14, 2021 @07:00PM
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It’s a toxic mix of both. If it wasn’t for the tracking and data reselling, those pop ups would be unnecessary.
Many also exhibit dark patterns, making it look like accepting everything is the only option, hiding or even flat-out not providing alternatives. That’s the marketing people, not the GDPR
Is this a good result?
After reading the paper it seems that the biggest takeaway is that animal neural structures are sufficiently similar to human neural structures that they can process some of the same stimuli in much the same way.
The other interesting thing for me is the possibility that you could modulate these signals for RF transmission (I do like SDR's after all) and with a cochlear implant, and SDR, a computer to receive the signals from the radio and feed them to your ear, and a rodent wearing a backpack to send the data. You could have a rat running around the place and the "operator" could listen in on whatever the rat could hear. NOTE: There are at least two, if not four decimal orders of magnitude of work needed to get to something like that if it is possible. Not the least of which is increasing the bandwidth/fidelity of the hearing interface.
One minute normal. Next minute, suddenly internal monologue? Wait Dialog? Wait, what's a dialog I, what's I? <SIGNAL LOST>
It's Flowers for Algernon for guinea pigs.
And
"I can't believe some people go direct brain to brain. Without a guinea buffer you open yourself up to all kinds attacks. Who wants to risk having their sense of taste ransomwared? Sure there's ethical issues with guinea arrays, but better their synapses get fried than than mine."
"Why not use a fuse?" people cry.
Well, storytelling is why that trope exists. Now storytelling has no excuse not to fix it. If military trained dolphins are hacker supremes then guinea pigs are the "fuse".
On a more serious note, we already have vision implants, so is there a similar study in the works on brain-to-brain vision?
There's definitely enough material here for a Douglas Adams style spoof on the traditional cyberpunk novel.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/
Many also exhibit dark patterns, making it look like accepting everything is the only option, hiding or even flat-out not providing alternatives. That’s the marketing people, not the GDPR
Fist, they could comply with no popup at all if they only used necessary cookies: https://github.blog/2020-12-17-no-cookie-for-you/
And second, many of the popups do not comply with GDPR because they are not genuine, fair, unbiased consent: https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-aims-end-cookie-banner-terror-and-is...