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Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by bennyelv on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:34AM (#27482430)
There doesn’t seem to be any evidence provided as to whether this is actually an effect way of detecting cancerous moles. Given that that’s probably the most important question to answer for something like this, I’m going to assume there isn’t any evidence or else it would have been front and centre of the site.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:56AM (#27482552)
Hello! here are the links - one to the FDA, see the Nevisense device https://search.usa.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=fda1&.... the second is a scientific article on bioimpedance and diagnosis of melanoma https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VqlKzjrmjKiS_EtdEjkisBjBDb7.... also enter bioimpedance melanoma or bioimpedance skin cancer in google you will find a dozen articles with research there
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by tsbischof on Saturday June 12, 2021 @05:06AM (#27482941)
Could you provide a link to evidence obtained using your own device? Or perhaps a description of the tests you performed to determine substantial equivalence to the predicate devices?
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @07:38AM (#27483760)
in what form do you want to get the data? I have a text from our researchers, but it's on Google drive. will this be significant for you?
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by tsbischof on Saturday June 12, 2021 @12:47PM (#27485646)
I would be curious to see anything which lays out the specific claims and the evidence or justification used. For example, do you claim to detect malignant moles and if so what tests have you performed to demonstrate this. The language varies somewhat on your website so the approval documents or the information you described would be helpful to understand the device better.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by xlaacid on Saturday June 12, 2021 @08:31AM (#27484007)
I think what they want is an independent, double-blind study,using your device that show statistical significance detecting malignant moles.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by tsbischof on Saturday June 12, 2021 @12:48PM (#27485652)
Independent verification is not always performed for 510k submissions, but yes that would be ideal
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:04PM (#27486716)
it's great that you asked about clinical trials. we conducted them blindly, with the participation of several doctors. the device measured the mole, and then it was examined by a doctor. after that, a biopsy and histology were performed. these data were compared. now this data is unstructured and the histology documents contain personal data of people. but I will soon process everything and also post it on the site. I didn't think it was interesting. everyone needs FDA and 510k certificates
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by Fooloo on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:27AM (#27482387)
To be honest all this skin cancer detection stuff is kind of non-proven to be effective. Problem with this is that it leads to overtreatment and a non-measurable prolonging of life-time.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:55AM (#27482549)
the best defense against cancer is early diagnosis. the point of the device is to help with this. if you have the opportunity to check moles with a doctor - it is better to do it with him.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by Fooloo on Saturday June 12, 2021 @07:53AM (#27483835)
No overtreatment is an concern. Just because you detect potential cancer earlier, does not mean that your life will be prolonged.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:32PM (#27486896)
I'll tell you a secret-human life ends. and all of us will leave this world sooner or later. but to die because of old age, in the circle of grandchildren and great-grandchildren, or at the age of 40 from a missed cancer-it's up to you. I just encourage people to take care of their health. if you don't like the device, make an appointment with your doctor. it's summer (if you're not from South Africa or Australia), it's time to check out your moles
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by gdebel on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:37AM (#27482446)
Says "scientific fact" on the landing page. No scientific paper cited.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:53AM (#27482533)
Hello! here are the links - one to the FDA, see the Nevisense device https://search.usa.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=fda1&.... the second is a scientific article on bioimpedance and diagnosis of melanoma https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VqlKzjrmjKiS_EtdEjkisBjBDb7.... also enter bioimpedance melanoma or bioimpedance skin cancer in google you will find a dozen articles with research there
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by Protostome on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:03PM (#27486715)
What would I do with such a device? Let's say I have a suspicious mole, I use the device and test it. The output can be one of two:

1. This is a dangerous mole! see a dermatologist immediately. Consequence: I go to the doctor

2. This mole is clear. Consequence: I go to the doctor anyway, because this is not an FDA approved device and there's no guarantee for the accuracy. A doctor knows his/hers ass is on the line if he/she misdiagnoses a patient. Reading your terms of use, you waive all warranty for the accuracy of the device.

Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by dragonwriter on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:05PM (#27486725)
> A doctor knows his ass is on the line if he/she misdiagnoses a patient.

Its not, though, as long as he is working within accepted protocols.

Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:13PM (#27486776)
look, let's be honest - will it make you feel better if they punish the doctor who missed your cancer? yes, you will not care about it, and all thoughts will be about how to achieve remission. I personally communicate with several people who have missed melanoma and they are now at stage 4 with brain metastases. yes, the doctor's license was revoked. but the cancer hasn't gone away
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:09PM (#27486756)
we will soon put the necessary certificates FDA on the site, so that you do not worry. we do not encourage you to refuse to go to the doctor, if you have such an opportunity. and as for your scenarios - the app has the ability to refine the measurements. if your mole is healthy and the doctor has confirmed it, specify it in the application. then, if there are any changes, the device will show them. especially if there have already been precedents with melanoma or other types of skin cancer.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by mcbain on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:42AM (#27482473)
Edit: I’m not dignifying this junk with a real reply.

If you have any doubt, see a professional. Don’t trust this crap.

Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:58AM (#27482567)
just then you should understand how important early diagnosis is. take care of yourself and go to the doctor regularly. all the buyers of the device just survived melanoma
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by DerWOK on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:58AM (#27482571)
Definitely Interesting! Especially as the cited scientific papers tell us the principle is possible. But I wonder: has the manufacturer classified this as a medical device in the FDA sense?

Was it developed and tested like so? Question to the OP.

Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @04:04AM (#27482605)
Yes, the device has been tested as a medical device and we will soon post certificates on the website.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by DerWOK on Saturday June 12, 2021 @04:10AM (#27482633)
My bad. I asked two questions. Thanks for answering the second one. Raises already some confidence. But could you answer the first (and more important one)? The website is silent on this topic. Would be cool. Wish you all the best for your product launch.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @04:23AM (#27482703)
sorry, I didn't understand your first question. we have been certified as a medical device, but we do not plan to enter the market of doctors. we originally developed NOTA as a device for home diagnostics of moles. However, when we wanted to get the 510k FDA certificate, we were told that they would test the device as a medical device, because there was already a precedent in 2018. if I still haven't answered your first question, please clarify
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by personjerry on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:19AM (#27482352)
But smart watches are NOT cheap. Not a price point I like, personally.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:54AM (#27482538)
but they are cheaper than going to the doctor, especially if there is no insurance.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by dvfjsdhgfv on Saturday June 12, 2021 @06:47AM (#27483492)
It depends where you live. In Europe you have it for free.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by beervirus on Saturday June 12, 2021 @04:00AM (#27482582)
Spam and probably snake oil. Show me your FDA approval pls.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @04:26AM (#27482726)
we will soon post the FDA certificates on the website. I hope that then you will be satisfied.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by dvfjsdhgfv on Saturday June 12, 2021 @05:11AM (#27482963)
So far no "FDA certificates" are posted. Instead, you run a rush campaign asking people to buy it within two days to save $130. Why would anyone in their right mind buy this before having any proof this actually works?
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @07:34AM (#27483733)
we have been running the promotion for 2 weeks now. just in time to make the last payments for FDA certification:)
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by robjan on Saturday June 12, 2021 @11:43AM (#27485210)
Theranos was FDA approved. The approval alone is meaningless. Without the results of a clinical trial using your device, it's as good as useless.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:03PM (#27486714)
it's great that you asked about clinical trials. we conducted them blindly, with the participation of several doctors. the device measured the mole, and then it was examined by a doctor. after that, a biopsy and histology were performed. these data were compared. now this data is unstructured and the histology documents contain personal data of people. but I will soon process everything and also post it on the site. I didn't think it was interesting. everyone needs FDA and 510k certificates
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:52AM (#27482528)
Hello there! here are the links - one to the FDA, see the Nevisense device https://search.usa.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=fda1&.... the second is a scientific article on bioimpedance and diagnosis of melanoma https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VqlKzjrmjKiS_EtdEjkisBjBDb7... . also enter bioimpedance melanoma or bioimpedance skin cancer in google you will find a dozen articles with research there
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by beervirus on Saturday June 12, 2021 @03:59AM (#27482573)
A site search of he FDA for a device other than the one you’re marketing, and a link to an article in some low-impact-factor journal I’ve never heard of?

Solid.

Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @04:02AM (#27482591)
you asked for confirmations - they are provided. and about fame - someone and DallasNews is an authoritative publication.
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by beervirus on Saturday June 12, 2021 @04:18AM (#27482671)
Huh? DallasNews?
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @04:26AM (#27482722)
exactly:) we will soon post the FDA certificates on the website. I hope that then you will be satisfied. or is the FDA not an indicator?
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by tsbischof on Saturday June 12, 2021 @04:59AM (#27482909)
Can you clarify what you mean by certificates? Do you intend to link to approval documentation from a 510k clearance?
Re:Early detection of skin cancer at home at the price of a ... by notamoletracker on Saturday June 12, 2021 @07:42AM (#27483780)
by certificates, I mean all documents that are issued after passing the FDA approval. including this 510K