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Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by paulddraper on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:09PM (#27478535)
In Tacoma, I lived nextdoor to a guy who "hurt his back" when he was 22.

As far as I can tell, he'll sit on his couch collecting disability until 65, at which point he'll switch to retirement.

Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by _delirium on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:48PM (#27478909)
I obviously don't know this person at all, but from what I know of how Social Security disability works, 22 is a really unlikely age to qualify. Are you sure it wasn't slightly earlier or later?

To be eligible in your own right, you have to have paid into Social Security for a total of 40 quarters before becoming disabled. Given child labor laws, it's rare that you could accumulate enough quarters before age 26 or so.

The other way is to be eligible on a parent's social security, as a "disabled child", which is defined as someone who became disabled before age 22. If you suffered a permanent disability at age 21, and have a parent who paid enough into SS to be eligible, you can receive "child" benefits from their account even as an adult: https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/disability/qualify.html#anchor7

This leaves an unfortunate gap for people who genuinely become permanently disabled due to an accident or medical condition that happens around age 22-25, because they can't qualify through either route.

Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by rufus_foreman on Friday June 11, 2021 @06:20PM (#27479189)
>> To be eligible in your own right, you have to have paid into Social Security for a total of 40 quarters before becoming disabled

Looks like there are different rules for disability for young workers:

"To be eligible for disability benefits, you must meet a recent work test and a duration work test.

The number of credits necessary to meet the recent work test depends on your age. The rules are as follows:

Before age 24 - You may qualify if you have 6 credits earned in the 3-year period ending when your disability starts.

Age 24 to 31 – In general, you may qualify if you have credit for working half the time between age 21 and the time you become disabled. As a general example, if you become disabled at age 27, you would need 3 years of work (12 credits) out of the past 6 years (between ages 21 and 27).

Age 31 or older - In general, you must have at least 20 credits in the 10-year period immediately before you become disabled."

-- https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/credits.html

Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by SkyPuncher on Friday June 11, 2021 @08:34PM (#27480189)
I find it so odd how society gets obsessed with boogeyman examples of people taking advantage of the system. There will always be some people who take advantage of the system. Accept that, keep it reasonable, but optimize the system for those who will improve it.

The flip side is this person is hurting society significantly less than some committing crimes - even worse crimes that are sentenced to jail time (which is very expensive).

Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by yaacov on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:33PM (#27478782)
I don’t know this dude, and if you know he’s just scamming the system I’ll take your word for it, but when I’ve experienced serious physical pain I’ve found video games much more helpful than OTC painkillers.
Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by paulddraper on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:36PM (#27478812)
I'm not his doctor, and I don't know either.

But is that one thing going to stop him from ever working/living a productive life?

Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by t-writescode on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:40PM (#27478841)
Yes, if the jobs he can get pay him less than the medical care and stipend he gets for free every month.

If you lose disability by starting to work, suddenly life becomes a lot more expensive and you can't afford things.

The Welfare Gap is real.

Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by paulpauper on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:05PM (#27479574)
anyting is better for pain releif than OTC painkillers
Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by UncleOxidant on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:15PM (#27478602)
Not going to get much of a retirement if he never paid into social security.
Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by paulddraper on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:18PM (#27478634)
Yeah, IDK. I won't be there see it.
Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by sgt on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:34PM (#27478794)
Sitting on a couch for the next 40 years is also not going to do wonders for his back.
Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by spoonjim on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:18PM (#27478631)
There’s a movement towards curtailing disability fraud so he might have a problem in between.