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Re:The case for and against the Oxford comma by saulrh on Sunday July 10, 2011 @10:15AM (#2747813)
Every time I see a grammatical argument like this, my first thought is that parentheses, or another way to precisely denote grouping and logical association, would instantly obviate the practice being discussed.
Re:The case for and against the Oxford comma by bonaldi on Sunday July 10, 2011 @12:25PM (#2748006)
Whenever I see a thought like that my first thought is that English is a human language, for the transmission of meaning.

Rendering it devoid of all ambiguity and shade in such a fashion would make it easier for computers to parse, but the expense would be losing most poetry and literature.

Re:The case for and against the Oxford comma by JeremyBanks on Sunday July 10, 2011 @12:42PM (#2748033)
There's a large gap between removing all ambiguity and adding an explicit grouping syntax. Nevermind computers, plenty of English is far more difficult than it should be for humans to parse.
Re:The case for and against the Oxford comma by mvzink on Sunday July 10, 2011 @02:27PM (#2748280)
It would take much more than parentheses to render English "devoid of all ambiguity and shade". Even then, any such stylistic changes couldn't be mandatory (that's not how languages work). You already have the choice of fully explicating a thought using multiple simple, unambiguous clauses which are clearly separated. Authors may neglect this liberty for the sake of art; just as many would like to have that unambiguity, but neglect it because it is meticulous. And now you are going to argue against making parentheses more generally acceptable-- which would in most cases be little more than a stylistic change, favoring a grammatical construct which already exists in the language.

Furthermore, look to the Lojban community for examples of poetry and literature in a truly unambiguous language (a far cry from the English suggested by saulrh).

Re:The case for and against the Oxford comma by redxaxder on Sunday July 10, 2011 @03:42PM (#2748436)
((Buffalo buffalo) (Buffalo buffalo) buffalo) buffalo (Buffalo buffalo).
Re:The case for and against the Oxford comma by trevelyan on Monday July 11, 2011 @03:05AM (#2749770)
The problem isn't a lack of specificity in English punctuation. I suspect it's more that few students get their writing corrected on this level. One unambiguous solution is proper use of the colon and semi-colon.

She invited several people: her father, a tuba player; her uncle, who played the guitar; and her boyfriend, a drifting wastrel of a youth generally despised by the rest of the family.