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Re:Apple II Mouse Card (1981) by zabzonk on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @12:46PM (#27450102)
Anyone remember the Apple II Z80 CP/M card (which always made me wonder why you would buy the Apple in the first place)?

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Z-80_SoftCard

Re:Apple II Mouse Card (1981) by dsr_ on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @12:56PM (#27450238)
Ah, I know the answer.

At the time, a CP/M machine was a business machine, because it could run a word processor, a spreadsheet, and dBase. (Literally the name of the database program from Ashton-Tate.) So you could buy a "serious" CP/M machine, but not an Apple II, which was an educational/hobbyist machine.

But if you bought an Apple II with the CP/M card, it was a business machine again.

The ways of people and accountants are strange.

Re:Apple II Mouse Card (1981) by zabzonk on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @01:01PM (#27450321)
The first spreadsheet, VisiCalc, was developed and first released on the Apple II (and apparently accounted for lots of its sales) - native CP/M spreadsheets, which came along later, were frankly a bit crap.

But I agree, there was more business software on CP/M.

Re:Apple II Mouse Card (1981) by bobochan on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @09:20PM (#27455645)
Exactly. I still have a //e on my desk and learned how to use VisiCalc because a high school friend's dad was an exec at Symbolics and we would swap back and forth between playing games and trying to figure out cool things to do with spreadsheets.

I swore I would never leave my Apple //e, at least until Borland released Turbo Prolog, and then I absolutely had to have a PC.

Re:Apple II Mouse Card (1981) by Lammy on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @02:10PM (#27451137)
> but not an Apple II, which was an educational/hobbyist machine

Which makes it doubly interesting that the AppleⅡ eventually shared the same fate to allow Macintosh LC systems to run old edusoft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_IIe_Card

Re:Apple II Mouse Card (1981) by flenserboy on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @01:48PM (#27450886)
It was just that way — a hardware version of dual-booting your tower into Linux for work and Windows for games.
Re:Apple II Mouse Card (1981) by martyvis on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @01:19PM (#27450541)
Perfectly in sync with hairstyle of the day - the mullet. (Business up the front - party at the back)
Re:Apple II Mouse Card (1981) by kyting on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @08:12PM (#27455131)
I purchased one in 1984 to learn CP/M and Z-80 assembly on the Apple II. Later I used it to learn Fortran and Turbo Pascal, and finally bought a PCPI Applicard to speed the things up. The Z-80 softcard could be one of the best cards in Apple II's history, IMHO.
Re:Apple II Mouse Card (1981) by js2 on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @02:08PM (#27451109)
I had that card for my Apple II (still have it in fact). It was solely to run WordStar. Once AppleWorks was released, I never booted into CP/M again. (For some reason, I never used Apple Writer. I can't recall why not.)
Re:Apple II Mouse Card (1981) by daladd on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @11:32PM (#27456377)
I remember using the CP/M card mostly for WordStar, but also for Turbo Pascal (after wasting a lot of time on Apple Pascal).